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PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 00:36:47 GMT

On the PM i made a grid for drawing number on the master layout.
I chose the option hide all then intersect with drawings.
the problem that when i plot it appears all the grid line even if it's intersecting the drawing.
Does anyone have a clue?
Thank you
PS:i'm using a xerox plotter 8825

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:18:23 GMT

gobel wrote:
On the PM i made a grid for drawing number on the master layout.
I chose the option hide all then intersect with drawings.
the problem that when i plot it appears all the grid line even if it's intersecting the drawing.
Does anyone have a clue?
Thank you
PS:i'm using a xerox plotter 8825

My understanding is that this is a bug when plotting, but not printing.

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:11:38 GMT

So i think i have to wait until they fix the bug, and i hide all and make the ones that they should appear manual.
Saco

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:27:36 GMT

Quit plotting and the problem will go away. Make .pdf's and print that. Why does anyone use .plt's anyway? is it better in some way?

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

__archiben — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 06:04:46 GMT

or: make your grid lines a 'dense dotted' white line (pen 91). if you set your preferences so that all items on the master show as one colour, the grids will show in the layout but appear never to plot . . .

(i think this was a nasty bug introduced in one of the latest patches . . . graphisoft are aware, as far as i know . . .)

~/archiben

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 06:57:03 GMT

but like this it will not appear when it's not intersecting a drawing as well, which i don't want.

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Djordje — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:11:29 GMT

gobel wrote:
the problem that when i plot it appears all the grid line even if it's intersecting the drawing.

Why are you plotting? Print.

Today's "plotters" are nothing but large format printers.

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:24:37 GMT

djordje-

that may be true, but plotting is about 5 times as fast as printing postscript, at least in our office. There is no wait while the postscript card processes data - the hpgl goes straight from the program to the plotter...

this bug we're talking about was introduced in the last hotfix, and I haven't installed it for that reason. no way am I going to try and change 20 people's plotting habits over GS's problems. The big question is, when are they going to fix it?

Wes

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

TomWaltz — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:03:08 GMT

Djordje wrote:
gobel wrote:
the problem that when i plot it appears all the grid line even if it's intersecting the drawing.
Why are you plotting? Print.

Today's "plotters" are nothing but large format printers.

Also because the Plotting functions LOOK better, and some architects still care about that....

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Djordje — Sat, 03 Sep 2005 18:05:22 GMT

Weston wrote:
that may be true, but plotting is about 5 times as fast as printing postscript, at least in our office. There is no wait while the postscript card processes data - the hpgl goes straight from the program to the plotter...

Hm, yes, Macs were always so CAD oriented ...

No, don't change people's habits, that is dangerous. Old is gold.

Re: PM Grid Line shows when i plot

Ted Taylor — Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:16:48 GMT

In my particular situation, plotting is still the preferred over printing. I am using a HP500ps with added cards and maxxed out memory in the machine with all of the latest drivers for the Mac from HP. With all things set to best quality in printing, both on the machine and in Plotmaker, Printing gives line weights that are too fat and noticably stair stepped. Plotting on the other hand gives crisp lines with no stair stepping and in general, cleaner looking drawings.

The speed difference is neglible between printing and plotting. I don't know if the Postscript software RIP still exists or works, but it was painfully slow on my 733 G4, and with plotting working so well, I have not bothered to check any further. Maybe someone with some experience on Macs and software RIPs could shed some light on this.

To HP's credit, they have finally developed a print driver that does appear to work properly on the Mac, sheets can be oriented properly and respond to the settings in the dialog boxes.

I am curious if anyone that is running both Macs and Windows machines sees a difference in printing and plotting between the two platforms, using the same file to the same large format printer/plotter. Looking at the signatures, Macs are plotting and Windows are printing. Given the graphic background of the Mac, I would have thought this would have been the other way around.

But then I'm a Mac user and according to some, am dumber than a stump. If some one that has actual experience on the Macintosh platform has a suggestion on how to improve print quality on my setup,provided they keep it simple with not too many syllables, I would be delighted to print.