topic Re: Font Varies from Different Computers in Documentation

Font Varies from Different Computers

Patrick M — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 17:34:12 GMT

I have a client who has font's showing incorrectly from one computer to another. The font itself does not appear to be missing, but the kerning/spacing/etc. of the text from one computer to another is messed up.
In the attached screen shots from two users on the same file; one shows the font lining up correctly. The other shows the fonts compacted and misaligned with the drafted legend elements. Both are joining to the same t/w file. Both have the fonts loaded on their computers, both are showing with the correct font name, not including brakets [-----] that would indicate the font file is missing or loading incorrectly.

Are there any tricks to getting a font to read consistently from Mac to PC?

Current suggestions are all more work than it seems like the team should have to put into this:

-redo all multi-line text with single line

-assign a new, more universal font (IE Arial) for all text

open to all other thoughts on this one...

Font showing incorrect spacing/alignment

Font showing correct spacing/alignment (screen grab at lower resolution):

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:45:52 GMT

Assuming they are both using 26?

If so, do they both have the same (latest update)?

There was a problem in the early releases that got fixed in the latest, that affects font/text positioning.

Barry.

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

Erwin Edel — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:51:01 GMT

The problem lies with how MAC and Windows interpret font size/spacing. This will happen with any font, as far as I know and isn't exclusive to ArchiCAD. You will have the same issues with something like Excel rows fitting the page and whatnot.

We used to have a few macbook pro machines that we mostly just used for client presentation, but if you actually worked on a project there, we would also have issues with font spacing and we use 'standard' Arial.

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

Erwin Edel — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 06:53:48 GMT

From what I recall it has to do with mac using 72 ppi and windows using 96 ppi when translating font sizes.

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

Aaron Bourgoin — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 12:53:45 GMT

another thought is that while they share the same font names, the Windows and Mac versions of these fonts do not share the same header. We experienced this with Futura and had to hack the header of the Windows version to achieve parity and predictable results.

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

furtonb — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 21:56:06 GMT

Hi @Aaron Bourgoin ,

Can you give a bit more context what you did and how reliable it is? I normally try to use the font conversion table, bit honestly, never really got it to work. This workflow is described here:

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Replacing-missing-fonts-between-Macintosh-and-Windows/ta-p/303516

Are you doing something differently? I work with a lot of offices with mixed hardware, and I have multiple systems as well - I would really appreciate your thoughts as this is a daily struggle for me.

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

Aaron Bourgoin — Wed, 05 Jul 2023 12:52:35 GMT

I'll get something more specific today from the workmate who figured out the hack.

Re: Font Varies from Different Computers

Patrick M — Wed, 05 Jul 2023 21:25:28 GMT

both using the same build/version of AC (on a t/w file, so there's not much of a choice on that)