topic Re: MVOs in Documentation

MVOs

DGSketcher — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:24:35 GMT

I would be interested to know roughly how many MVOs do you have in your projects?

I'm not looking for definitive answers as to how you are using them, just the number that you have in regular use.

I have 10 in my template which I use for one off houses.

Re: MVOs

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:35:24 GMT

3 here though I can get by with 1.

Re: MVOs

Xandros — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 14:51:14 GMT

5 right now, but dependant on the objects used in the library. now that we have this zone stamp by b-prisma, it will probably increase in near future since it changes the way we work with zones in general.

Re: MVOs

Jeff Griffin — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 15:20:29 GMT

7 currently.

Re: MVOs

Barry Kelly — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 01:49:47 GMT

I have 15 but use only 5 for regular jobs.

The other 10 are just in my template to save me creating them or modifying an existing one.

Barry.

Re: MVOs

AllanP — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 03:39:44 GMT

99, same as the number of layer combinations and graphic overrides, but we only really use 33 in most jobs.

Re: MVOs

Gerry Leonor — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 04:23:48 GMT

5 - 6 MVOs

one gets used in 90% of cases though. (Floor Plans) & only a handful that are actually drawing based MVO (Stairs / Site / background / RCP)

Re: MVOs

mthd — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 08:12:04 GMT

This is all I know about MVO’s and I just use the default ones, if I can get them to display correctly in 2D that is. Please see this video below if you are a beginner.

https://youtu.be/TMi6EHFu49o

Custom MVO’s look like allot of work to me ? By the time I finish editing plans to keep the planning officers happy I haven’t got anytime left to fiddle with MVO’s lol.

Re: MVOs

DGSketcher — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 09:10:01 GMT

Thank you for all the responses so far. There is clearly a wide range of use and understanding of MVOs. I am hoping these responses will benefit us all in time...

If anyone else wishes to add details of their MVO use it will be helpful.

Re: MVOs

Lee Hankins — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:56:21 GMT

We've got 11 in our template and they are all used on our healthcare projects. We use a Zone Stamp made by Applecore that can be fully controlled by MVOs hence the reason for some many MVO's. Unfortunately the Zone stamp is no longer maintained.

Re: MVOs

Gerry Leonor — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 12:24:13 GMT

can i ask what the use of zone stamps are these days, now that you can tag them with labels?

are there things that the labels have difficulty in calling up in zones?

Re: MVOs

Lee Hankins — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:26:24 GMT

We find with the labels we would have to create multiple additional layers for all the different information we want to pull off for each different type of drawing. With the Zone Stamp linked to MVO's we can use a single Zone on a single layer and utilise the MVO to control the content of the stamp.

Re: MVOs

JeffH — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 14:26:10 GMT

We currently have 18, broken out to follow suit with our Layer combinations & Graphic Override combinations.

It allows us some flexibility if someone needs to tweak something for a various reason, that we don't have those adjustments everywhere.

An example view would be set up with these settings

Layer Combination: 08 - Door & Window Plan

Model View Option: 08 - MVO - Doors & Windows

GO Combination: 08 - Door & Window Plan

I'm finding it to be helpful when Someone requests help due to issues, its easy to glance at the bottom of the screen and see if these settings are relatively accurate.

Re: MVOs

Marc H — Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:25:11 GMT

Mine need review and work as well (several are carry-overs from older templates). With that, I have:

(5) for modeling

(2) for 2D3D existing conditions plan docs

(2) for FMP (planning) docs

(4) for pre-design, schematics docs

(17) for DD/CDs, mainly around major doc types &/or scale

Re: MVOs

mthd — Thu, 03 Aug 2023 02:17:05 GMT

I am following this post to see what else I can learn with the application of MVO’s to improve the quality of my drawings. I am always looking for short cuts too.

Thank you for creating this post.

Re: MVOs

DGSketcher — Thu, 03 Aug 2023 07:58:16 GMT

The aim was to simply gather some numbers to support a point I am making to GS. It is good to know it is helping in other ways.

Re: MVOs

mthd — Thu, 03 Aug 2023 08:23:24 GMT

I am looking forward to your wish list in this respect.

The localised version of Archicad need to be tailored to the conventions of our particular location or region in the world when it comes to MVO’s, attributes and complex dialogue boxes. If they can do that, then they can simplify the process.

Archicad is global as you all know and so they cater to all sorts of needs and standards. That’s why it gets messy and complicated unfortunately. Or you need a great deal of experience just to know where everything is in order to change simple minor things.

I think they could start with having windows and doors on separate layers instead of just being with the wall assembly that they are part of.

Have fun !