topic Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs? in Documentation

BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Aurasphere — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 07:06:12 GMT

I was using GDL and embedded text file...is there now a better way???

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Aurasphere — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 02:28:19 GMT

Really, does no one automate Floor Space Ratios?

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 02:32:18 GMT

https://help.graphisoft.com/AC/27/INT/index.htm?rhcsh=1&rhnewwnd=0&rhmapid=#t=_AC27_Help%2F045_PropertiesClassifications%2F045_PropertiesClassifications-13.htm

Example 7 may be similar to what you want?

Barry.

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Aurasphere — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:06:16 GMT

Thanks

Yes I have been through this but it does not allow global variable transactions which is critical for FSR ie summary of all room zones as against another zones site area

I also did the tutorial on youtube for glazing compliance and this does not actually work, if anyone went into the detail

Windows are fine but doors may/not contribute to glazing based on the glazing contained within the component, else an opaque eg wood door should not and does not contribute illumination.
The pipeline through a zone does not expose this information so these examples are unfortunately wrong

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:26:46 GMT

All I can suggest is that you have a 'master area' property that is associated to all zones.

It can be a just a value (area) that you adjust in the properties.

The downside is this value can not be locked (there is a wish for that already).

If left as 'default value' in the element settings, then it will automatically change as you adjust the property value in property settings.

It is just there is nothing stopping anyone from overriding that value in the element settings and once adjusted, it will remain adjusted until it is set back to 'default settings'.

Barry.

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Aurasphere — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 04:11:28 GMT

I appreciate your time @Barry Kelly

This is a long way short of live model and BIM ie user input.

Looks like I bring back a lot of the old stuff I had going but its very disappointing and I shudder to think that others are doing it manually for the cost and yearly payment of archicad.

I wont mention that 'other' program that easily does this 😞

Global referencing is such a 101 for coding...dont mean to be neg but I think its time some peeps at GS got a bit of a shake up else they will be out of a job...or maybe they have plants in HQ to make sure it does fizzle out? Its happened before

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

mthd — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 06:32:13 GMT

Hi @Aurasphere, I am using a fill with area auto calculated in my CI Tools for FSR and yes I manually calculate the %age. It certainly would be great to have auto FSR Zones that auto calculate. BTW is it the “R” word app that you are referring to ?

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Aurasphere — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 06:40:51 GMT

@mthd

Thats my frustration. Look I do have a much simpler GDL way using a text file as a global repository from about 20 years ago. It does all the % etc but my expectation was that it should all be simple stuff now. It also allows certain councils which dont count void spaces etc to be flagged with a dropdown in an object etc

Ultimately

Project Info should be accessible info whereby the choice of compliance/council is selected from a lookup table of preset parameters and used globally throughout the project, not just as a read only text but numeric via props and GDL ie a connected program exemplary of committee unity

Ah yeah...the dreaded R. Mind you it has its own quite painful issues to be sure but this is not one of them.

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

mthd — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 06:50:15 GMT

@Aurasphere, I am waiting to see how they are doing BOQ’s in Hong Kong. I am not one who codes but there should be a way to export floor area to XL and put the calculation rules in the cells. If you have a video on how it is done in Revit, that would be good to share and make a wish for a similar tool. After all that is directly related to Architecture.

Re: BEST PRACTICE: How are you doing FSRs?

Aurasphere — Mon, 18 Mar 2024 23:53:06 GMT

I ended up setting up a discrete set of parameters in project info and piping them in but it was hard work and cost me a lot more time than it should have. Its possible to do pretty much all the compliance issues parametrically and just use the compliance bounds; then use the maths in properties to generate all the tables which brings me back to the issue of not being able to append/subreports in layouts...missing for 20 years 😞
At least all of the data is live now