topic Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27? in Documentation

Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

cocoloco — Sun, 07 Jul 2024 21:37:43 GMT

Hello, currently working on project that will need kitchen design options. I understood that there is some great tool to do it , assuming it is better than copy-paste as I did it previously. Anyway! can't find the tool at all. I have archicad 27, I tried searching "design options/design options manager/even just option..." and it's just not there. I am not kidding. Or am I blind?

Operating system used: Mac Apple Silicon 14 Sonoma

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 07 Jul 2024 17:51:57 GMT

If you migrated your Work Environment from 26 it will not show in your Menus.

Switch to one of the defaults for 27 and it should be there.

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

cocoloco — Sun, 07 Jul 2024 23:12:03 GMT

EDIT: it worked. However I lost all my working environment setting with all my on-screen tools, thats pretty annoying.... Thanks god I saved it. Also once I put it back to my setting, it's not showing. Sorry but this is not normal @archicad the more I work with this software the more I hate it.

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

Barry Kelly — Mon, 08 Jul 2024 00:50:50 GMT

If you are using an old custom Work Environment, then it will not know of any new commands and will not show them.

It will assume that your custom WE is how you want it to be.

If you use a new 27 default Work Environment, then it will not know of your custom settings.

So you can add the new commands to your custom WE.

Or you can add your custom settings to the default 27 WE.

Unfortunately there is no easy way to merge the 2.

The WE is divided up into sections, so you can swap those individual sections.

But is still doesn't help with new commands in toolboxes, menus and keyboard shortcuts.

Fortunately you can see a list of all new commands, but this are only the new ones since 26.

If your WE originates from say version 24, then there will be a lot of other new commands that are not considered as new anymore.

Barry.

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 08 Jul 2024 02:53:42 GMT

It is standard normal practice to re-create your W/Es yearly due to the updates.

At a minimum you will always need to recreate (or edit to add the new commands as @Barry Kelly indicated) the one for Menu's. All others can be imported from previous years without much issues. Shortcuts is another you need to look into to check if there are changes.

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I agree that this should this be easier but maybe you should be looking at other options if you hate it…

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

Algimantas Kuprenas — Mon, 08 Jul 2024 05:11:20 GMT

This is quite annoying stuff with importing older work environment into newer Archicad file and then new versions buttons are not visible, only quite expierenced AC users know it, I believe that great portion of AC users is not even using some new functions that comes with new AC because of this workenvironment issue. This must to be fixed . . .

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

mthd — Mon, 08 Jul 2024 04:56:43 GMT

I thought Design Options was under Document ?

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

cocoloco — Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:51:43 GMT

I agree, What is the point to set up own environment - every-single-year? I would think (or I did) that all the NEW archicad features - which is what I am downloading - will be imported to the menus automatically OR at least will have opportunity to "find them" and add into my environment. Not that I have to create every year new environment for menus and tools.

Is there possibility to move this into wishes? I don't have high hopes with UI but would want to contribute with some hope.

Re: Design Options Manager missing in archicad 27?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 14 Jul 2024 17:38:10 GMT

IIRC this has been a continuos wish for the last 20 yrs.

Sometime in the las 10? they added a blue highlight for new commands and a dropdown with the list.