topic Re: Dimensioning keeps changing in Documentation

Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:27:00 GMT

I open a drwing and place dimensions. they look awful with fraction and a format that is horrible.

So I edit it so that I have no fractions and reads like this 12'-4"

I immediately save,

As I work this format changes

I have to set it up again and notice:

That I open the "Options" - Project Preferences" "Dimensions " and they have changed back to the wrong stuff.

I repeat and many time have to immediate repeat as it keeps going back ti the bad dimensions.

I repeat this daily and some time many times in a day.

How do I stop this from happening.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Barry Kelly — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:37:04 GMT

When you edit the dimension style, it will become 'Custom'.

You then need to 'Store As' your original style.

TIP: press 'Rename' first and copy the name.

Then change the style you want and then the 'Store As' button.

Now paste the name and choose 'Overwrite' when prompted.

This saves you having to manually type the name exactly.

There really needs to be a 'Redefine' button as in other dialogues.

Barry.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:42:23 GMT

Thank-you - it seems very odd and does not follow logic or grammar.

So thank-you for the help.

Graphisoft - this is not logical

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Barry Kelly — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:58:54 GMT

It is logical.

It is a bit like layers.

You can turn on/off an individual layer and you will get a 'Custom' layer set.

But all of your views are set to use a particular layer combination.

So as soon as you open that view, the layer combination will be reset and you have lost your 'Custom' settings.

If you want to change the layer combination, you have to change the layer in that layer combination (you just don't have to 'Store As' or 'Update' unless you do it the old way).

Same with the dimension styles.

They are saved as a 'combination' or 'style' in the dimension style settings.

So when you amend the dimension style settings, you must also update the dimension style combination.

The dimension styles are also saved in each view which is why they are resetting for you.

Similar for Model View Options, although any changes you make are automatically accepted in that MVO combination - there used to be an update button but it was taken away.

MVO combinations are also saved in each view.

It would just be nice if all settings dialogues had the same method for changing the settings.

Either accept the change automatically (which I personally don't like) or have an Update' or 'Redefine' button so you can accept the changes.

Barry.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:26:55 GMT

It is not logical as the format for the US is only one format. Not exception.

The seed file should be set up for that format and again there is only one format

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Barry Kelly — Sat, 13 Jul 2024 05:59:18 GMT

@Eric Milberger wrote:

It is not logical as the format for the US is only one format. Not exception.

The seed file should be set up for that format and again there is only one format

I don't understand what you mean.

You have the option for feet and fractional inches and you can set the fractions from none to 1/64.

Your initial post is about the settings changing.

Maybe you can show a screen shot of the dimension s settings to explain the problem?

Barry.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:12:42 GMT

Why doesn't the Imperial template come delivered as it should with the proper imperial settings.

I appreciate the help but why when you save you have to save an additional way.

Odd approach

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Barry Kelly — Mon, 15 Jul 2024 01:00:01 GMT

@Eric Milberger wrote:

Why doesn't the Imperial template come delivered as it should with the proper imperial settings.

What is proper for you may not be proper for someone else.

That is why you set up your template how you want to use it.

Don't rely on out of the box solutions.

@Eric Milberger wrote:

I appreciate the help but why when you save you have to save an additional way.

Odd approach

Not quite sure I understand this.

You can set what dimension options you want and 'Store As' "Eric's Imperial Dimensions" and then set your views to use that dimension style, or you can 'Store As' and use exactly the same name as one of the existing styles to update it, and any views already using that style will automatically update.

It is just a shame there s no 'Update"' or 'Redefine' existing style button.

Barry.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:34:15 GMT

Just disappointed as to why things are made so difficult. I have never been given a seed file from other software that did not automatically work. Great software that does not know we have to compete with others.

Make it easier not harder.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:31:10 GMT

I noted that this topic is in your list for updates to the software. And the same issue

Here is what I need to be able to see.

This is the smallest project I have done in 40 years. So my issue is more prominent is my commercial projects that are not that complicated

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Thu, 18 Jul 2024 13:47:58 GMT

This is automated in my other software, I can drag the text into staggered locations and move them in any direction.

I have had to use this feature to some extent on every job we have had over 50 years.

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Eric Milberger — Wed, 24 Jul 2024 13:42:22 GMT

The workflow is not correct or obvious

I Go to Project Preferences -

Dimensions

Make sure to change "Fraction to None"

Custom

Store as "M2"

Item Dimensions disappear

Do a file save

reopen and first floor is still dimension however 2nd floor is not correct so change it to m2

is OK now but open 1st floor and it is back to fractions

Gone back to options and selected Custom (M2) and looks good

Went back to 2nd Floor and selected custom "M2" and it looks good

Save the file

Select Exit and it asks "SAVE?" and I save again

and then reopen

AND THE FRACTIONS ARE BACK

THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING

Exit the file and reopen

Re: Dimensioning keeps changing

Barry Kelly — Thu, 25 Jul 2024 01:37:44 GMT

Seems you have updated your dimension styles which is great.

Now each view you open stores the dimension style, so you need to make sure the view settings are using the correct dimension style.

Every time you open a 'view' all of the settings will change to what is stored in the view settings.

you can change the settings on screen, but these will not affect the saved views.

Barry.