topic Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once? in Documentation

How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:02:24 GMT

I need to adjust the lengths of multiple grid lines simultaneously.

Typically, I would use the marquee tool for such tasks, but it seems ineffective for grid line adjustments.Given the number of grid lines involved, manually adjusting each one is not feasible. I am seeking a more efficient method or workaround to accomplish this task.

Your guidance on how to adjust the grid lines collectively would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance and support.

Operating system used: Windows 3001 INT

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:52:37 GMT

@Rubia Torres Can someone at Archicad look into this? This seems like a super basic thing but no one is willing to reply. Tagging you because of the Archicad badge...

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 24 Aug 2024 01:22:26 GMT

@Wlad222

First, Archicad is a product, Graphisoft is a company... so you are looking presumably for a reply from Graphisoft, not Archicad.

Second, you're upset that nobody replied in one day? It often takes a week to get replies here... which are from your fellow users. If you want a response from Graphisoft... you need to contact your local Technical Support. This is not a technical support Community, but a user-to-user forum.

It is helpful if you state what version and build of Archicad you are using. We have no idea from your post... Is it 18? 27? And Windows 3001 is meaningless... is that Windows 11? If the 3001 is an Archicad build... then it is not a current update as that would be the initial installation version.

Finally, please do not tag random people such as Rubia, demanding an answer. You will either get a response, or you will not. But, again, if you want to be sure to get a response, contact technical support. 🙂

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:59:32 GMT

~~I just tested this with a thin marquee... and all grid lines whose hotspots are included in the marquee stretch as they should. I'm not sure why this isn't working for you~~. My platform info is in my signature..

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:05:00 GMT

I am absolutely appalled by the dismissive and condescending tone of your message.

It's infuriating that in a community owned by Graphisoft, there is such a lack of support from the company itself. With all the money Graphisoft is hoarding, it's downright shameful that no one from the company is present to assist the very users who keep their business afloat. Your suggestion that it's unreasonable to expect a response within a day is completely unacceptable. Users should not be left waiting for a week to receive help from fellow users, especially when Graphisoft could easily step in to provide the necessary support. This isn't just a user-to-user forum; it's a community that deserves active engagement and assistance from the company that profits from it. Furthermore, telling users to contact local Technical Support is a cop-out. Graphisoft should take responsibility for ensuring that their community is well-supported. It's not just about technical support; it's about creating a supportive environment where users feel valued and heard. The lack of direct involvement from Graphisoft is a glaring oversight, and it's high time they step up and do something to help the community.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:23:30 GMT

I don't know what you did but according to HELP it is not possible...

Columns, Objects and Lamps cannot be stretched with the Marquee. If any of their hotspots fall inside the Marquee area, the whole object/column will be dragged along when the Marquee area is repositioned.

I guess grid objects fall under Object category. It's absolutely baffling and infuriating that in 2024, a supposedly advanced architectural software like Archicad still lacks the basic functionality to stretch Objects using the Marquee tool. This is an essential feature that should have been implemented years ago. Consistency is a fundamental principle in software design, serving as the backbone for creating user-friendly and reliable applications.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 00:11:34 GMT

~~As I pointed out, the grid stretches perfectly with the marquee tool.~~

Update: Not able to reproduce marquee stretching... grid elements only move in response to marquee.

If you are having a problem, either post more details here or contact tech support who will work with you.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Mahmoud Qenawi — Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:12:11 GMT

Hi @Karl Ottenstein,

I tried that solution you suggested by thin & bold marquee but it really doesn’t stretch the grid line, it’s only dragged.

I think you can retry applying that solution and kindly illustrate by a short video (if possible).

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

mthd — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:38:16 GMT

“Any Grid elements can be stretched with Pet palette commands: select the Grid Element, then choose the Stretch icon. Select a Grid element. Click on the editing hotspot which represents the staggered part of the Grid marker, and then drag the Marker, together with the staggering length, to a new position.”

https://help.graphisoft.com/AC/26/INT/_AC26_Help/070_Documentation/070_Documentation-63.htm#:~:text=Any%20Grid%20elements%20can%20be,then%20choose%20the%20Stretch%20icon.&text=Select%20a%20Grid%20element.,length%2C%20to%20a%20new%20position.

I don’t use grids but you can try and multi select all grid elements and then use the pet pallet stretch command to see if it will stretch all of them at once for you ?

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Funfun Yan — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:51:42 GMT

You can't with the original Archicad. Need plugins. In China, there is a plugin named BIMOM, can do this stretch function.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 07:44:12 GMT

Hello @Funfun Yan , Thank you for your suggestion. Could you please provide a link to the plugin? Additionally, I would like to know if the plugin is available in English, or if it is exclusively in Chinese.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

mthd — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:03:45 GMT

Hey @Wlad222, I think we have enough proof here for you to make wish for this feature to be included in a future version of Archicad.

All the best.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

vlahtinen — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:16:27 GMT

I don't know any way to stretch the grid lines unless they are created using a grid system, see https://help.graphisoft.com/AC/27/INT/_AC27_Help/070_Documentation/070_Documentation-59.htm and https://help.graphisoft.com/AC/27/INT/_AC27_Help/140_UserInterfaceDialogBoxes/140_UserInterfaceDialogBoxes-52.htm#XREF_47208_Grid_System

You can create a grid system, copy and move the individual grid lines in the plan view, select all the grid lines and then return to edit the grid system settings. If you edit the extension value (in the Grid Elements section), all the grid lines will extend accordingly.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:22:01 GMT

@vlahtinen Thanks the reply, however the solution you mentioned about using a grid system to stretch grid lines involves a different approach that doesn't directly address the problem with the Marquee tool and GDL objects and their control points.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Funfun Yan — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:35:17 GMT

The plugin is exclusively in Chinese for now. And it is not free. So I think you have to do this task by each axis element.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 00:12:59 GMT

Unable to reproduce the stretch today. The grid elements only move when the marquee is moved on any element's hotspot. Sorry all!

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Mahmoud Qenawi — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 00:18:51 GMT

Hi Karl,

Never mind, we all hope for a new solution or workaround that can lead into faster workflow, thank you so much😊.

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Rubia Torres — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 06:44:54 GMT

Dear @Wlad222,

Thanks for sharing your question in this forum, and for your mention.

Please let me clarify how the tagging of Graphisoft employees works within the Community. Our team members have a variety of roles and responsibilities, and while we’re here to support and engage with the community, our primary function is not to provide immediate answers to every tagged query.

The Graphisoft Community is designed as a collaborative space where users can help each other, share knowledge, and discuss various topics. On that note, the Community is not a place for technical support and dedicated assistance. While we do have colleagues who contribute by focusing on specific areas, sharing news and updates, we might not always be available to respond to every mention due to our other commitments. Tagging random Graphisoft employees in hopes of getting a faster answer can lead to an overwhelming number of requests and can hinder our ability to prioritize and manage our tasks effectively.

Regarding your question about extending multiple grid lines, as far as I'm concerned, @vlahtinen's solution is the best approach. If you want to address limitations on the Marquee tool and Objects, our wishlist is currently being updated, and you will soon have the opportunity to share your ideas directly with other users and the Graphisoft Product team - we currently work on this project and official news will be shared in the Insights blog in due time.

Thank you for understanding. We appreciate your use of this platform and active contribution!

Best regards,

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

Wlad222 — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 07:18:45 GMT

First, I want to apologize for tagging you earlier. I was just feeling really frustrated with the absence of such a basic function, and I let that get the better of me.

On a related note, I think it would be incredibly beneficial if Graphisoft could consider having more professionals actively participate in this forum. By doing so, we could ensure that fast help and solutions to complex questions are available to hundreds of users globally. This approach could also lighten the load on local support teams, allowing them to focus on more specialized inquiries while providing a platform where anyone, anywhere, can find the answers they need. Or at least for us who pay subscription.

Thank you for your understanding and for being part of this community. Looking forward to more productive discussions!

Re: How to stretch multiple grid elements at once?

mthd — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 02:09:40 GMT

At present some of the moderators also serve as troubleshooters. The most active being @Barry Kelly. It would good if a few other very experienced users were specifically appointed as troubleshooters here to help out and to take the load off Barry too.