topic Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet in Documentation

AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Harvey Fontanilla — Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:02:00 GMT

Hi. We are currently experiencing slow navigation (zooming, placing text, dimensions) when doing worksheets. Our typical workflow is:

For Blow-up Plans (Toilet Details, other details with larger scale than our plans and will only require a portion of the plan):

After placing the blow-up views, we trace the layout on a separate worksheet then from there, we place our dimensions. This Worksheet will now be placed on top of the Traced Layout so we can have a separate view showing only text, tags and dimensions instead of placing it on the model space.

Since Archicad 27, we cannot do this anymore efficiently due to the "short" stops. Even when panning or selecting text when using worksheet with trace reference, this happens. Worksheets with Trace Reference becomes so slow.

We did not encounter this on all the previous versions we had since AC18. Do you guys know a quick solution for this or had encountered this?

Thank you!

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Vaclav Slovak — Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:21:36 GMT

Same here - it seems dwg trace references are now bloody slow..

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Hans Roest — Thu, 04 Jan 2024 14:46:25 GMT

Same here, trace reference is effectively unusable since AC27...

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Jens_R — Mon, 08 Jan 2024 13:17:16 GMT

Have the same issue. Did you get any solution to the problem?

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Botonis — Mon, 08 Jan 2024 17:33:16 GMT

Same issue. Using a dwg in a worksheet as trace reference is super laggy.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Harvey Fontanilla — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 00:47:12 GMT

Disabling the Quick Selection Option (Magnet) works for us but this is only a temporary solution

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Botonis — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 07:35:50 GMT

I tried disabling the magnet nad it feels like it is far more responsive. The magnet detects the trace reference and gives the relevant info at the tracker tab.it feels like this process creates a lagging. For me it also feels that the mouse polling rate affects the response. I have a mouse that has a max of 1000hz polling rate. As far as I know Archicad can handle till 500hz, but i have set it at 125hz so the scrolling will not have any lags.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Romans — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 10:35:32 GMT

Hi Harvey,

Please let us know what kind of hardware and system OS you are using.
Thank you.

Regards

Roman

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Hans Roest — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 10:48:14 GMT

Relevant soft- /hardware:

CPU: i7 8700K;
GPU: GTX1080Ti;
RAM: 32GB DDR4;
HDD: Samsung 970Evo SSD;
Windows 10;

Latest Studio Drivers installed, hotfix 27.1.1. installed.

No issues whatsoever on AC26 and below.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Harvey Fontanilla — Wed, 10 Jan 2024 00:43:35 GMT

CPU: i9 12900KF
GPU: RTX2060
RAM: 32GB DDR5
Boot Drive: WD Black SN770 500GB
Storage Drive: WD Blue SN570 500GB
Windows 11
with drivers updated

In our office, we have i7 PCs with RTX3060 also experiencing this lag

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Harvey Fontanilla — Wed, 10 Jan 2024 00:46:07 GMT

I tried to lower the polling rate but did not notice any performance increase...

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Hans Roest — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:21:42 GMT

We reverted all AC27 projects to AC26. This issue caused serious speed problems. In AC26 everything works fine again, would be nice if there is a sollution, as we were looking forward to using the Design Options!

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Boyan Hvoynenski — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:38:55 GMT

Same problem! Trace & Reference is absolutely slow and we can't work with it. I hope it will be okay in the next update...... this is basic option for this software.

Relevant soft- /hardware:

CPU: Intel Rocket Lake Core I5-11600KF 6 cores (3.9Ghz Up to
4.90Ghz, 12MB LGA1200) 125W,
GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 3060 AORUS E OC 12GB rev 2.0
RAM: Team Group Delta RGB TUF DDR4 - 32GB(2x16GB) 3200MHz,
CL16-18-18-38 1.35V
Windows 11;

Latest Studio Drivers installed, hotfix 27.1.1. installed.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Gortz — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 09:28:52 GMT

This is a known issue: DEF-16662

Workaround is to use the same Layer Combinations in the open and traced view.
A more user-friendly workaround: when working with the Trace and Reference function, have only one tab open and close all the other tabs in AC.

It is scheduled to be fixed in AC27 2.0 which is the next update for AC27.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Andy Melaragno — Sat, 27 Jan 2024 17:52:11 GMT

Thanks for posting this workaround! It has been a huge help! Hopefully this gets fixed and very soon.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Hans Roest — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 07:26:40 GMT

This does seem to help a lot, but with only one tab open (the 'User-Friendly' option) it does not always work.

Is there any planning on the AC27 2.0 update? The hotfix of december '23 doesn't fix it and it is still VERY annoying.

We've confirmed it's not hardware related, since we are now working on brand new workstations wich are HUGELY over the recommened hardware specs...

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Lee Hankins — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 07:47:43 GMT

There is an update preview out for Archicad 27 (27.2.0) which specifically lists a fix for trace reference speed where the reference uses a different layer combination.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Hans Roest — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 08:04:03 GMT

Not yet for my installed language version (NED), the INT-version cannot be installed.

Hope it releases soon!

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

rgarand — Thu, 22 Feb 2024 20:08:27 GMT

Thanks everyone for all the "work around" suggestions. These seem to work for me. Hoping for the hotfix to be live soon.

Re: AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

MarkT — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 03:10:34 GMT

27.2.0 is available to download (beta). Initial testing indicates the trace reference issues are resolved BUT has unearthed a glitch where accessories will lose any association i.e. roof or ceiling accessories will not edit when the roof / ceiling is modified. Re-installing the goodies suite and the hotfix has no effect.

Edit: fresh install of AC27 / Goodies / Hotfix 27.2.0 does not resolve the accessories issue either