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can I copy dimensions II ?

LeeJaeYoung — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 01:31:26 GMT

can I copy dimensions?
can I copy dimensions? - Graphisoft Community

I connected the grid to the dimensions of the basement 2nd floor, and I want to copy the dimensions to the basement 1st floor. However, it is not copied. Is it the same method as explained in the link below?
ArchiCAD does not understand dimensions.
If there is a hotspot at the location where you copy and link, it seems like you can create the dimensions by programming it....

Is there a reason why you do not do it in Graphisoft?
I want to know about the dimensions pursued by Graphisoft.

Operating system used: Windows

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

ryejuan — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:33:13 GMT

Hi, If you want use the Grid System then within the Grid System settings you can assign dimension on your grids and it will be carried out on the different levels.

but if you want to copy a dimensions it won't simply work...

What you can do is use a hotspot then place the dimension on that hotspot then you can copy the hotspot and dimension altogether it will preserve the dynamic function of the dimension as well.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

LeeJaeYoung — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 03:00:40 GMT

1. it will be carried out on the different levels. I don't know if I misunderstood what you meant, but are you saying that I should create a Grid for each floor or that each floor will have a dimension?

2. Automatic dimensions are not applied to the Grid.

I asked this question because it seems that you can apply it sufficiently and use it, but you don't.

3. I wonder what the intention is of not being able to copy it.

I don't think it's impossible, so I think it's because you don't want to do it.
I wonder what Graphsoft's intention is.

4. I need to use 4 hotspots to link the dimension lines to the Grid. In order to display the locations of columns, beams, etc. as dimension lines on the Grid, I use 4 invisible hotspots to display them as lines at the locations. Is there another method that I should study?
Here, I also want to know Graphsoft's rule that when you use dimensions on the Grid, it doesn't automatically add hotspots to the Grid so that you can link them.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

ryejuan — Wed, 08 Jan 2025 12:49:36 GMT

1. If you use the Grid system

you don't need to create several grids on each floor as long as you select show on story: All Stories

2. Automatic dimensioning, yes you can use it but it depends on what you want to achieve like for example you want to dimension wall openings.

For dimensions on the Grid I will use the grid system dimension so it will be automatically displayed on all stories.

3. Not sure as well but maybe to avoid confusion with actual text and dimension elements. (no idea just guessing)

4. It won't add hotspots on Girds you need to manually place them...

It will really depends on your workflow... For me I would duplicated the dimension that's generated from the Grid system and then from there I will just press and hold CTRL and click the elements that I want to have dimensions, if this will be time consuming maybe I will use Automatic dimensioning if i will get the job done quicker. Another one is I will do the hotspot and dimension in one floor then grouped them and copy it to the floors that needs that dimension. It really depends.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:11:35 GMT

You can copy dimensions without using the Grid System (or when it stops updating) but it might not be as fast as dimensioning again showing the previous story as a Ref:

Select grid dims you want to copy (or any other dim)
Open Dim Settings and select "Static Dimension"
Close settings and use CMD/CTR+C to copy the Dims
Use CMD/CTRL+Z to undo convert to static
Go to the next story to dimension and use CMD/CTRL+V to paste
Then you need to relink the dims to the object by selecting the nodes and clicking were they are supposed to measure. You could leave them as static if you are a monster and can live like that and not spend the time relinking them but that is not recommended.

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Alternative is to do the above steps once for your template for 5-10 stories and when you start your project you edit the grid as necessary. Removing individual grids is no issue but adding extra ones will need to edit the dim chain in each story.

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FWIW I don't mind that there is no automatic way to do this since when "playing" with the grid I like to really be sure and going slow lets me think it thru.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

LeeJaeYoung — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:23:18 GMT

What I'm wondering is, do you think Archicad's dimension tool is perfect?
Even if I just think about it,
I wonder if there's a reason why it can't be done by searching for hotspots in the same location and copying the dimensions if they match.
And I don't understand why the dimension lines that only change the number of floors in the same grid aren't copied.

I understand what you're telling me.
Create a static dimension, copy it, and use it.
And then copy it and link it again.
It's the same way as using association in AutoCAD.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:52:50 GMT

Just writing alternate dumb workflow for this specific case, unlink, copy and undo.

I already have my template setup with all the grid dimensioned which solves 99% of my cases.

Dims in AC though not perfect are much better than Autocad.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

jl_lt — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:44:46 GMT

@LeeJaeYoung wrote:

can I copy dimensions?
can I copy dimensions? - Graphisoft Community

I connected the grid to the dimensions of the basement 2nd floor, and I want to copy the dimensions to the basement 1st floor. However, it is not copied. Is it the same method as explained in the link below?
ArchiCAD does not understand dimensions.
If there is a hotspot at the location where you copy and link, it seems like you can create the dimensions by programming it....

Is there a reason why you do not do it in Graphisoft?
I want to know about the dimensions pursued by Graphisoft.

Operating system used: Windows

hi! with our proposed new dimensioning tool, none of these (very useful) workarounds would be needed. And yes, you could copy dimensions as you can in Autocad berwren levels and it would rearange all the dimensions according to the model without further work.

cheers and peace to all!

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

LeeJaeYoung — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:19:58 GMT

I don't understand what you're saying.
Are you saying I should buy a dimension tool?
Or are you saying I have one?

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

jl_lt — Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:15:39 GMT

keyword is "proposed".

we proposed it a wish long ago. like most other wishes, graphisoft never heard.

but truth be told, almost all the dimensioning problems i have ever read and all the problems we have, would be solved with it.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

LeeJaeYoung — Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:00:03 GMT

Ah! You said there isn't.
I made a suggestion. But it didn't work.
That's why I had a question.

1. In AutoCAD,
If you draw line 1 in the API, a dimension with an association is created at the end point closest to the intersection point among the two endpoints of the intersecting LINE.

2. In AutoCAD,
If you copy a dim without an association and automatically connect it in the API, it is transformed into a dimension with an association.

There seems to be no reason why it doesn't work in the program, so I'm curious why it isn't provided, so I'm asking this question.

At first, I thought it was a consideration that Archicad dimensions don't move from architecture to structure, but now I think it can't be done.

If it doesn't work after making a wish for so long, then it means that graphicsoft is just like autodesk in that it doesn't communicate well.

Thank you. Okay, that's it.

Re: can I copy dimensions II ?

jl_lt — Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:21:18 GMT

the proposal involves eliminating current "click-based" method. instead, the tool would "read" the model (exactly like the section tool), and generate dimensions according to the model and set criteria. This way your only work would be to place the tool where you need the dimensions, which would always stay accurate, no matter how many edits You make to the model.