topic Re: Issue with label and MEP elements in Documentation

Issue with label and MEP elements

strangeday — Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:51:11 GMT

Hello,

Have any of you ever encountered problems with the labels associated with MEP elements in section views? in particular with zero depth sections, when I try to label MEP elements(with a generixc text label), such as tube or duct routing, AC crash every time.

The only workaround I found is to set the section depth to infinite, label the elements, and then set back to zero depth(and its quite a little waste of time...🤣)

Operating system used: Windows 11 24H2

Re: Issue with label and MEP elements

rakurs — Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:43:20 GMT

I have encountered something similar but it tells the story of MEP.

On floor plans, I label my pipe routes that go through several stories. They appear on layouts, on views, but when I export to dwg, they only appear once, probably related to the route element which they are connected to. Basically, labels show and they don't show. Schrödinger's labels.

I think it is related to their anchor point and is obviously a bug. It would explain why ArchiCAD struggles with zero depth sections - label's anchor point maybe is not in the plane which you define with your section, so they shouldn't appear, in true ArchiCAD logic.

Why do I bother with MEP at all...

Re: Issue with label and MEP elements

rakurs — Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:44:49 GMT

I might be onto something: when I disable "Hide with associated element" checkbox inside label, they now export!

Try it, @strangeday, if you haven't given up completely.

Re: Issue with label and MEP elements

strangeday — Mon, 16 Jun 2025 07:36:05 GMT

Hello @rakurs , I've tried to disable "Hide with associated element", but archicad continue to crash, agree with You that the bug seems related to the anchor point of the tube.

Re: Issue with label and MEP elements

Marc H — Sat, 23 Aug 2025 16:13:24 GMT

Ah, the saga of the MEP tool. I came up on this problem a few months ago, too. My need is to have the pipe segment show in scheduling without all the baggage of other associated components. I also experience an RS status issue when connecting new pipe to existing pipe wherein it wants to marry the two sections together. I also have some SEO operations in which the piping will not participate.

This may not work for your needs, but for mine, I’ve made a morph of a pipe connector, set it at the POC, and with that element in place, applied an ID autotext label.

Hope it helps.