topic Re: Views placed on Layout keeps updating in Documentation

Views placed on Layout keeps updating

ahmad525 — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:37:28 GMT

hey all

i have a problem with most views placed on layout and its constant updating.

when i open a layout it start updating all views and this happen twice before i can use the file.

this is happening to certain files so im assuming it has to do with work environment.

on some sheets i have like 15-18 views and this is starting to take some time since it gets updated twice in a row.

please find attached

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Barry Kelly — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:35:53 GMT

They will update when anything in the model has changed, and it may not even affect the actual drawings.

I am not sure about the double updating.

You can select each (all) drawings and set them to be 'Manual' update.

But then you have to remember to update them yourself.

Barry.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:38:13 GMT

yeah i understand the auto-update process, but the thing is that nothing is being updated in the actual view. whats happening is its just updating no matter what i do.

If i clicked outside the Archicad file and i clicked back again on Archicad it start updating twice.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Barry Kelly — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:43:14 GMT

OK.

What Archicad version?

Is it the latest build?

What operating system?

Teamwork or stand alone?

So you have a layout open and it is all up to date.

Then just switching to this forum and then back to Archicad forces and update?

Barry.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:48:07 GMT

AC 25

build 6000, latest as per update

win 64

stand alone job.

yes thats exactly whats happening. it forces the layout into updating not once but twice !

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Barry Kelly — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:54:55 GMT

Strange, this is not happening for me.

Maybe there is something in your file (hotlink, Xref, schedule, something) that thinks it constantly wants to update?

If you open the default Archicad template and open a layout, does it do the same thing?

Barry.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:38:04 GMT

it doesn't happen to all files as I mentioned, but the weird thing is all files are from the same template and all have the same exact hotlinks and schedules. i dont use any Xref other than mod hotlink.

and the drawing manager for the files that keep updating shows that all drawings (needs checking)

i refreshed all and it shows that all ok but then i opened it again and it was showing the same thing (needs checking)

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Barry Kelly — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:38:19 GMT

I am not sure, as it is not happening to me.

Can you show the drawing settings for one of those elevations?

I am not sure if this will offer any clues.

Barry.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:38:29 GMT

thanks for the help mate.

yeah i have it the same with auto and all.

this been happening for the past month but i didnt start giving it a thought till yesterday since i had like 15 views on one layout and it was taking some time to update twice lol and i wanted to just paste a note on the layout .

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 12:10:34 GMT

Ahmad,

It seems to me, based on your Drawing Manager screenshot, that all Drawings that need updating have Interior Elevations as their source view. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Do other Drawings also have this issue, or only the ones that have Interior Elevations as their source view?

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:17:29 GMT

hey mate,

actually all drawings in this file have this issue not only interior elevations sheet, i dont mind the other sheets updating twice but the interior elevations sheet is the one that takes really long to finish updating (twice) !

not sure whats going on but for some reason all drawings get triggered to update twice every time I click on any sheet.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Barry Kelly — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:29:21 GMT

Is the double updating anything to do with the Trace & Reference being turned on?

I have not noticed this but there would be twice the information to update.

Barry.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:43:25 GMT

trace & reference is off, and if its on it would be between storeys only .

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

SenecaDesignLLC — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:47:45 GMT

If it's on it won't matter where it's looking. Everything will update twice if you have trace and ref on in a layout.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:58:06 GMT

trace & ref is turned off everywhere.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:38:55 GMT

this is snippet of 2 Archicad files the left is the one that having the issues.

please note that both have same hotlinks, libraries and from same template.

this snippet was taken literally after i refreshed and opened the drawing manager again.

the one on the left gone back to needs checking, the normal file is showing OK.

now this is driving me crazy lol

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Barry Kelly — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 04:04:26 GMT

Interesting how a couple of details are OK.

Are the drawings linked to internal views or an external source?

They are probably internal - I am just clutching at straws now.

Barry.

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

ahmad525 — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:39:10 GMT

yeah its totally weird and its driving me nuts.

the details are actually details markers but have the hotlink drawings in them so im assuming thats the case ?!

Re: VIEWS PLACED ON LAYOUT KEEPS UPDATING

Bojan Fratina — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 13:20:02 GMT

I have had the same (or similar) problem multiple times over the years, across multiple AC versions. Drawings on some layouts would auto-update even if no changes were made to the model, even if I just switched to a different tab and back or to a different program and back. I wasn't able to find the source of this problem until today.

Today I was able to find the cause of the most recent instance of this issue (no idea if this has been the cause of all of them or if this issue can have different causes). On a layout that had this problem, the source view of one of the drawings had a missing penset. Once I reset the penset for that view, the problem ceased. It is enough to have only one drawing with this problem on your layout, that drawing will always automatically update when you open the layout, then after it is done updating, this for some reason triggers an update of all the drawings on the layout (hence why some drawings get updated twice; if all drawings have this issue, then all of them get updated twice).

Re: Views placed on Layout keeps updating

Botonis — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:53:13 GMT

I had a certain layout in which certain drawings were conctantly updated even after I closed and open the layout.

No chnages. No nothing.

@Bojan Fratina made me start thinking so I checked my pensets and all were OK.

BUT THEN.... I checked my design options and some of them were "Custom". After setting a certain design Option the drawings stopped updating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess this has to be checked some how by others who are facing the same problem of constant updating.