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    <title>topic Re: Mirroring Label issue in Documentation</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707875#M70297</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, the geometry settings are only available in the tool box (info box) before you place the label.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;They are not available in the tool settings (not sure exactly why not) and they will be greyed out once you select an already placed label.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Making a label independent, automatically switches that&amp;nbsp;marker or label rotation setting that I showed you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now you have made them independent, they are no longer associated with the element you labelled.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Move or delete that element and the label will remain where it was.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 00:35:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-07-10T00:35:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Mirroring Label issue</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707694#M70289</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have mirrored whole houses for many years, 100's of times. Old files always mirrored as expected, but something changed at some point and labels changed their behavior. &amp;nbsp;My guess is that it started with the introduction of associated labels, even if it is turned off. But, perhaps I am missing a setting somewhere? In the past I could open a building section after mirroring, select anything added to it... fills, text, and labels then mirror those all at once, and maybe drag it a bit, and all was done. Now, the labels mirror around the tip of the arrow, I think. On a plan I just mirrored, some labels mirrored as desired, and some from the arrow tip. So I had to manually select each one and mirror them individually. The only difference I can find is the ones off the tip have the association as an option (but not checked). &amp;nbsp;My guess is the other labels, that mirrored as needed and don't have the associate option shown (as per screen shot), predate that AC feature. I have plans I have developed for decades so no telling when it started. That said, not selecting the associated option should make it behave as always.. but??? Am I missing something? &amp;nbsp;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2026-07-08 at 4.30.19 PM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/103076iA545D4DC2B524E72/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screenshot 2026-07-08 at 4.30.19 PM.png" alt="Screenshot 2026-07-08 at 4.30.19 PM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:04:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707694#M70289</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick Thompson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-09T00:04:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mirroring Label issue</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707696#M70290</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;"Hide with associated element" means the label &lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;is&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/EM&gt;associated to something. it just won't be hidden if the objects layer is different to the label, and hidden.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 22:41:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707696#M70290</guid>
      <dc:creator>MitchD</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-08T22:41:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mirroring Label issue</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707704#M70291</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think you will find it is to do with the marker or label rotation setting.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_1-1783556194314.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/103079iC3F9D05E405E2B1F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="BarryKelly_1-1783556194314.png" alt="BarryKelly_1-1783556194314.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:16:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707704#M70291</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-09T00:16:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mirroring Label issue</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707756#M70296</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the input Barry. &amp;nbsp;It wasn't actually that in my case. What I was missing was going to the tool settings and trying what was available (with a new label), rather than realizing the Geometry Method is not available there, but only in the tool box. &amp;nbsp;Go figure. So, selecting all labels, and using the drop down menu, then select "Convert To Independent Label" fixed my issue. &amp;nbsp;If I simply select all labels, and go to the tool box, all are greyed out, but the contextual menu will change them. &amp;nbsp;At least now I know to changing the default setting in the tool box first.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2026 17:30:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707756#M70296</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick Thompson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-09T17:30:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mirroring Label issue</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707875#M70297</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, the geometry settings are only available in the tool box (info box) before you place the label.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;They are not available in the tool settings (not sure exactly why not) and they will be greyed out once you select an already placed label.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Making a label independent, automatically switches that&amp;nbsp;marker or label rotation setting that I showed you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now you have made them independent, they are no longer associated with the element you labelled.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Move or delete that element and the label will remain where it was.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 00:35:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Documentation/Mirroring-Label-issue/m-p/707875#M70297</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-07-10T00:35:07Z</dc:date>
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