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Graphisoft public roadmap - Follow-up conversation

Gordana Radonic — Tue, 09 May 2023 08:44:37 GMT

Dear Community,

We're excited to have published our roadmap!

We'd love to hear your thoughts and questions. Please feel free to use this thread for discussion.

Graphisoft Insights announcement: https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Graphisoft-Insights/Graphisoft-public-roadmap/ba-p/375281

Public roadmap on the Graphisoft website.

Thank you.

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Barry Kelly — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:12:25 GMT

If some of those 'coming soon' items make it into 27, that will be well worth the upgrade in my opinion.

Barry.

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Lingwisyer — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:12:41 GMT

I cannot login with my GSID to register for the event... page just loops when I click on the GSID option. Event page does not recognise when I login to the homepage...

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Lingwisyer — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:17:07 GMT

I feel like a lot of the Idea Pool items that are titled "Consistency" really should be well beyond the bucket of soup in the back cupboard...

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hevi — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:17:53 GMT

I understand that it should be considered WIP but should that really have to be the case after talking about it for one and a half year? Why does all things implemented by GS seem to be underdeveloped and in need of more work from the get go? Why does development focus continue to feel superficial and marketing driven?

It is certainly a step in the right direction to provide a roadmap but the way it is done does not instil much confidence in the future development of AC.

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mija — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:48:24 GMT

Finally, some genuine response from GS.

I like the layout, especially coming soon sector. I think you should implement voting system, especially on the idea pool so developers can prioritize demands of the users.

I do feel like Archicad is no more ARCHIcad as in architecture, and architecture seems like is not a priority for development even tho mostly architects use archicad. I understand the need for MEP and structural development, but shouldn't your focus mostly be on making it easier for architects and the main client group by solving SO MANY issue/requests/wishes we see daily on this forum?

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hevi — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:53:19 GMT

To exemplify with some very basic UI things that I really can't see why they aren't implemented:

The roadmap is stated to be for four products but looking at it it's not obvious which item belongs to which product. There should be a tag for each product.

The card-view is really hard to overview and means a lot of scrolling. There should be a more condensed view mode.

Search is limited to one development stage. There should be a centralised search with ability to filter for stage.

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DGSketcher — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 09:16:25 GMT

A good start but...

Can you separate out BIMx in the headings? Why? Because the BIMx Devs seem to be making excellent progress with many changes and BIMx is in many ways a separate branch of Archicad like MEP.

I would also say the same for BIMcloud, which many of us don't use so those feature are of limited interest when reading the Roadmap

Can't say there's much reassurance under the "In Progress" heading which I assume is geared towards AC28/29. It also feels like architecture is going to be playing second fiddle to DDS/Services for the next couple of years despite the steady demand on this forum for fundamental usability and architectural workflow improvements.

Under Research includes some interesting pointers. Is Keynotes really only at research stage? How does AI-assisted Design take a sense of precedence over many of the elements in the ideas pool?

Dark Mode is still in the Ideas Pool... What! Really. After four years is AC27 still going to continue its delivery of unreadable dialog boxes and generally messy interface on macOS?

Please tell me that after nearly twenty years of asking for Instancing (aka in-place hotlink editing), is it still just an idea? All the development that AC has delivered over the years including the integration of Structural elements and this fundamental function of CAD is still just an idea at Graphisoft?

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Algimantas Kuprenas — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 05:17:28 GMT

Good start

Text and visual information helps a lot . Also could be good to have "Implemented" tab, so we know what was done. More filtering, voting and commenting options will help to make this thing alive

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Noemi Balogh — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 09:30:49 GMT

Hi Ling,

Thank you for your report, we adjusted the system in the background and now it seems to work fine. Can you please try again and confirm on your end too?

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Rex Maximilian — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 10:29:09 GMT

In the Public Roadmap when using the filtering tags, I see there are more roadmap features for MEP and Structural than there are for Architecture.

If the fee for "Architects" is $975/year for SSA, shouldn't the focus be on developing more tools and features for architects? Why is the focus now outside of our discipline with MEP and Structural?

We need architectural features to drive development. This is ARCHI-CAD. Can someone please explain why the migration to engineering features is dominating the Roadmap?

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Rex Maximilian — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 10:30:32 GMT

Where is the interaction IN the roadmap. How can users comment ON the roadmap items, instead of a general forum here. Each topic in the roadmap needs user interaction for GS to faithfully gauge its need.

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Rex Maximilian — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 10:34:52 GMT

I notice in the Under Research and Idea Pool, many features that have LONG been in ArchiCAD are being considered to be implemented into BIMcloud as opposed to ArchiCAD. Does this mean you will be removing features like Publishing, Hotlinking, Exporting of DWGs and PDFs to BIMcloud, and unless we subscribe to BIMcloud, we will be out of luck?

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Gordana Radonic — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 10:49:12 GMT

Hi all,

Thanks so much for your comments, especially @DGSketcher, @hevi, @mija, @Lingwisyer, @Algimantas Kuprenas, @Rex Maximilian for your questions!
For a start, I can answer your comments on the voting and interaction: as we mentioned in the announcement, we're planning to introduce voting in upcoming iterations on the roadmap. If you're available, we'd love for you to join our event today.
We'll be sharing more details about the roadmap and answering questions during the Q&A session, so it's a great opportunity to interact with our product team. If you can't make it, we'll be responding to some of your questions here on the forum. Thanks for your interest!

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Rex Maximilian — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 10:53:17 GMT

I was happy to see FBX in the "coming soon" section. With the announcement of 27 coming in the fall though, I would hope to see it in an earlier hot fix release of 26, as opposed to six more months when 27 is released.

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Nathan Hildebrandt — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 11:08:45 GMT

Congratulations team. It is great to see this first step taken.

I am that happy about it, I have already recorded my thoughts about it.

https://www.skewed.com.au/blog/graphisoft-releases-public-archicad-roadmap#.ZC1R83ZBwmA

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hevi — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 11:13:46 GMT

@DGSketcher wrote:

Please tell me that after nearly twenty years of asking for Instancing (aka in-place hotlink editing), is it still just an idea? All the development that AC has delivered over the years including the integration of Structural elements and this fundamental function of CAD is still just an idea at Graphisoft?

GS's reluctance to adress this is beyond belief. Having a proper generalised multiple instantiable group entity should be a baseline for a modern CAD/BIM application - or as they now like to say "industry standard".

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ArchiMind — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 19:06:36 GMT

Hi all,

I must admit I have mixed feelings about the roadmap.

Don't you guys have some kind of focus group before this kind of announcement?

Since V24, ArchiCAD improvements are mostly based on tools that are not related to architecture. Don't get me wrong, they are needed, but the ratio of development is off. Should be 70/30% in favor of architecture and the rest of 30% other.

It is a good start, but most idea pool MUST be under the coming soon/ In progress tab.

Hope that roadmap is not closed and is open for change.
A voting system is a must so that YOU as a company knows where to put resources, and we as USERS get the tool that we need.

Cheers,

Stefan Veselinović

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Jarrod Phillips — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 12:26:50 GMT

Thanks Graphisoft for taking a step in the right direction! My first impression is that there are too many Structural and MEP features in the pipeline. I am excited about the prospect of a new GDL editor and RVT geometry exchange. As mentioned by others, it would be great to see a voting system integrated into the road map to assist Graphisoft in prioritising planned features.

Cheers!

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DGSketcher — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 13:52:21 GMT

https://graphisoft.com/product-roadmap/idea-pool

I would hate to see the votes and comments divided between two threads for such an important wish, if/when we get to that stage.

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In-Place Hotlink Management is listed twice.