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Export to DWG - warning of viewport not updated

Anonymous
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Hello Everyone! I am experiencing some issues with exporting drawings to DWG, and I'd appreciate any kind of help.

I often have to update the viewports right before I publish the drawings to DWGs in order to get the line color to match with our export template. This means I wasn't able to export in batch with the publisher, because after a while (maybe 5 minutes), Archicad would deem the viewports "outdated" and gives a warning "Following Drawing's content in the ModelSpace may differ from its source View: ...") even though nothing has been modified in the model.
(I use manual update in all of my viewports)
Since I do not have a lot of drawings, I'd do a workaround and update them in small batches (10 drawings at a time) and repeat until I finish exporting all the drawings. It's acceptable since it works and it's manageable.

However, recently, I couldn't even get one drawing exported to DWG without the warning ("Follow Drawing's content..."), even if I did indeed update the viewports SECONDS before I click the publish button. When I see this warning, it means the lines aren't exported in the color we defined in the template. Translator and template was not modified before this issue occur.

Has anyone experienced this before? Thank you very much!
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Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hi,

Thank you for sharing the issue and I am very sorry about the experience!

Unfortunately, we haven't received any similar reports to this one. I'm wondering if you could share with us your project file in PLA format for further investigation? I would like to get the translator for exporting the DWG as well: https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/user-guide/65980/
Please let me know if you need a secure place to upload the files.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best regards,
Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

CaticonC
Contributor
The same happens to me, difference is, if i don't update the viewports the linetypes lose their 'scale'. And sometimes i also update all drawings, publish to dwg and still appear the same warning, seconds after i already updated. I work on archicad 24. I wish there's a solution, since it didn't happen to me on AC22, and it's a drag to update everything everytime i have to export to dwg.

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
I see this all the times in my projects.
Update all views, Publish to PDF and then immediately Publish to DWG and I always get the warning.
I just gave up on reporting it since I have been seeing it for at least the last 5 years
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Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Dear All,

Thank you very much for your reports and I am very sorry about the experience!

As I have mentioned previously, we haven't received any similar reports from our first-tier supports. It would be great if we can have the file for in-house reproduction. Could you please let me know if it's possible?

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best regard,
Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

CaticonC
Contributor
im interested. Im now noticing the problem persists with sections/interior elevations views, it almost ALWAYS asks me to check the drawing status or update. I'm working with bimcloud basic.

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
CaticonC wrote:
im interested. Im now noticing the problem persists with sections/interior elevations views, it almost ALWAYS asks me to check the drawing status or update. I'm working with bimcloud basic.
Hello,

Thank you very much for your information!

I'm wondering if the problem specifically happens only in Teamwork environment, or it can also happen when you save the file as Solo and open/work locally?

Best regards,
Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

CaticonC
Contributor
Just tested it. I made a pln copy of the file, and when trying to publish after updating all drawings, it keeps showing the warning that drawings need checking (mainly sections/interior elevations). I usually have to check and update twice to make it work.
In the case of external drawings linked from another bimcloud file, no matter how many times i update the drawing, it always shows me the warning, forcing me to export anyways and losing linetypes scales, etc.

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hello,

Thank you very much for the answer!

Would it be possible for you to share with me the PLN file and the DWG translator for further testing? The translator's location can be found in the DXF-DWG Translation Setup dialog.
Let me know if you need a secure place to upload the file to us also!

Best regards,
Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

CaticonC
Contributor
yes, i would prefer a safe way to send the file.

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hello,

Thank you for your quick answer! I sent you the link via private message. Please let me know when the files are ready!

Best regards,
Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

ClareC
Participant

Did you ever find a fix / work around for this issue? I've just discovered the same problem (Archicad 25 - Solo) 
Thanks - Clare

Dear Clare,

 

Thank you for the question and I am very sorry for the experience!

 

Fortunately, we received some further information from another case. According to the developer, seems like before exporting to DWG, the DWG In-Out add-on uses an Internal API call which tries to check and update the drawings again, thus every drawing turns back into the "Needs Checking" status. But we are not sure why it happens to some files and doesn't happen to others. We will need to look into the API to check this.

 

The developer also mentioned that if the drawings have been updated before exporting to DWG, we can ignore this message as there won't be any changes in the model.

 

I hope this explains the situation, and once again, I am very sorry for the inconvenience! Please let me know if you have any questions!

 

Best regards,

Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

Hi,

I have encountered the same problem. Not only do I get the error message when exporting DWGs, but when I import the DWG into AutoCAD to check it, the drawing only comes in as a block (with nothing in model space). When I try to import it into Revit the program says that there is no model space information, only 'viewport space' information. I am having to re-scale the block in AutoCAD to the correct scale and then save over my original DWG export! 

I believe the issue has come from saving the project from Archicad 23 to 24. I am new to the software and did this by accident. When I down saved back to 23 I am no longer getting the error message but the DWG is still importing as a block in paper space and nothing is appearing in model space. - I have tried importing another DWG that was exported from the same Archicad drawing a while back and that appears in the model space - all okay. The bug has arrived and stayed since saving the 23 file to Archicad 24.

 

 

Jacob

Hi Jacob,

 

Thank you very much for the question!

 

In Archicad, for importing/exporting to DWG, we can control the output result by using the Translators. By default, there are several different translators for different purposes. 

To answer your specific question, we can control how the model and layouts are exported to DWG through the option Save Layout intoTo have the model drawn in Model space, make sure to choose 

  • Paper Space with Cropped View’s content

or

  • Paper Space with Full View’s content

I hope this helps you with the problem. If there is anything unclear feel free to ask me again!

 

Best regards,

Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

So, i came back here, since i still have problems and it's nice to read it was kinda detected, but too bad it doesn't have a solution still.

 

Hi Minh,

 

We do face the issue with CAD batch export (publish). And as you suggested above if we ignore the error message then CAD export are never correct. For example, if we publish CAD drawings of multiple sheets with merge option only one (first) layout gets exported in CAD and all other layout are blank and model space in CAD also does not show anything of remining layouts.

 

Can you please help us resolving this error. As we are facing this issue on large scale projects. 

st
Contributor

Hi,

I have encountered the same problem and I am sorry but I disagree with the developer when he says "we can ignore this message as there won't be any changes in the model", because that bag makes me feel very uncomfordable when expoting my final project and the program says that something may go wrong!

Looking forward for a proper solution!

CaticonC
Contributor

and also, i don't know if it happens to you, but when using linked views from a BIMcloud file, linetypes scales are lost. So, of course, it's not ok this isn't yet solved

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