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Hotlink methods - which one do you use?

rbrt_brln
Participant

Since the early days I've always used the simple method editing the modules in another Archicad. However on the last project we ran into a few attribute problems and it was suggested we use the Iceberg method. Personally I don't like lots of negative stories and the thought of overwriting a module file makes me uneasy.

 

After trying this method I believe it takes longer to select, save as module, navigate to the location and then overwrite the existing file. I do see the advantages (attributes, trace references) however I'm not convinced I'll be staying with it for very long.

 

I'm curious how many of you use the Iceberg method?

iMac 4 GHz Quad-Core i7 • 16 GB • macOS Big Sur
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DGSketcher
Mentor

I assume you have read the GS Hotlink Management Workflow Guide?

I have probably been lucky that I have developed workarounds to save having to use external Modules, but on the few occasions I have tried to use them, chasing attributes became a nightmare. I have also tried the iceberg method and found the management on multiple (50+) negative storeys to be a complete time sink for limited benefit. Why after 18 years of asking, we still don't have an in place modules [aka Block/Component] editing option defies belief. 

 

I'm probably not helping here, but I wouldn't be surprised if even the seasoned users of modules come here and post anecdotes of attribute nightmares... 

Apple iMac macOS Big Sur / AC24UKI (most recent builds)

Erwin Edel
Mentor

We don't use separate stories as a workplace, but rather have a workplace for modules set off to the side on the first story the module will appear at.

 

We draft a polyline around the module for easy quick selecting with magic wand and marquee tool.

 

We hide the module workplace by selecting the items and showing them only on a custom 'module workplace' renovation filter.

 

We have a saved view set up for editing the modules at the top of our view map.

 

It is a lot faster than opening the file in a new session.

Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-24 NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5

Rex Maximilian
Enthusiast

I usually work in separate files per module and manage the attributes with an Attribute Manager file. When I make a material or attribute change in any module, I update the master Att. file first, then I bring/merge/update any needed attributes in the host file with this method.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
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27" iMac (2019), 8-core 3.6 Ghz i9 processor, 40GB RAM, 1.5TB SSD, Radeon Pro Vega 48 (8GB)
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Having said that, I don't usually work with pure modules very much. Most hot linking is .pln or .tw file into another--such as a building file into a site file. However, the Attribute Manager is still a useful tool here as well.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
27" iMac (2019), 8-core 3.6 Ghz i9 processor, 40GB RAM, 1.5TB SSD, Radeon Pro Vega 48 (8GB)
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

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