2020-05-06
04:33 PM
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2022-05-16
02:26 PM
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Rubia Torres
2020-05-12 08:21 PM
2020-05-14 09:10 AM
2020-05-14 01:40 PM
vdentello wrote:Thanks for the feedback. Could you elaborate a bit more on the connection issues and ideas? What do you mean by it is not so easy to build connections for elements?
I've used MEP quite a bit around here. I Think it's really promising.
My biggest concerns are more GDL related. It's not so easy to build connections for elements.
If GDL had even line numbering or some colors on the editor it would already make things a lot easier. (natively). An easier connection "function" could help. This way users can customise their own stuff and don't have to wait forever.
Regarding usability, what i miss most is segment Length (gotta map it in a weird way), predefined angle x size charts, so it "Switches" between the pre existing/ configured favorites.Segment length can be already defined in MEP Preferences, although you can only change it by type of element (pipe, duct, cable carrier). I can imagine an option here to set it by system type.
About tracing, i miss being able to draw slopes in % as we do with roofs. I believe that's a pretty simple one to solve.
Changing tracing direction could be a bit easier (as it is with lines that change to arcs on the go). Referencing on last segment as standard, etc.
2020-05-14 01:42 PM
Lukas wrote:Thanks Lukas for the feedback. What do you mean by capacity calculations? Are you referring to electrical calculations that help with electrical modeling?
To attract more MEP professionals to Archicad it is essential to include also capacity calculations.
But it's definitely a good direction to focus on MEP.
2020-05-14 04:40 PM
2020-05-14 05:55 PM
2020-05-14 07:54 PM
Balint wrote:Connections need almost 20 parameters each, that have to be created one by one inside the parameter tab.
vdentello wrote:Thanks for the feedback. Could you elaborate a bit more on the connection issues and ideas? What do you mean by it is not so easy to build connections for elements?
I've used MEP quite a bit around here. I Think it's really promising.
My biggest concerns are more GDL related. It's not so easy to build connections for elements.
If GDL had even line numbering or some colors on the editor it would already make things a lot easier. (natively). An easier connection "function" could help. This way users can customise their own stuff and don't have to wait forever.
Balint wrote:About segment length i meant the IFC mapping of it and the schedules, I know how to pick them up inside the object, but they could be more explicit or passed to value "A".
Regarding usability, what i miss most is segment Length (gotta map it in a weird way), predefined angle x size charts, so it "Switches" between the pre existing/ configured favorites.Segment length can be already defined in MEP Preferences, although you can only change it by type of element (pipe, duct, cable carrier). I can imagine an option here to set it by system type.
About tracing, i miss being able to draw slopes in % as we do with roofs. I believe that's a pretty simple one to solve.
Changing tracing direction could be a bit easier (as it is with lines that change to arcs on the go). Referencing on last segment as standard, etc.
What would you like to see with the predefined angles? Two different angle series and easy change between them?
For the slope modeling, you are already able to do it in %. You just have to change the Rise/drop unit inside the MEP Preferences window to Percentage. Then you can route sloped pipes with % setting.
2020-05-19 11:28 AM
2020-05-19 12:06 PM
2020-05-20 02:10 PM
DGSketcher wrote:
I think there is a fine line here between architectural representation and full blown specialist tools. From an architectural perspective I would like the basic MEP modelling tools to make a reasonably accurate 3D representation of MEP services, especially if the external consultant is still stuck in 2D land. There are also basic services such as gravity drainage and simple ventilation which many practices can reasonably design in-house which the current MEP toolset could address. I think when you start venturing into the realms of flow modelling GS should be developing specialist packages which allow third party consultants to read the PLN model and share basic modelled routing layouts for collision checks etc but any modelling calculations and detailing should be held as a separate file by the consultant. This could also apply to other disciplines as well e.g. Structural Engineering steel FEA checks, rebar schedules etc. I am just wary of the PLN file and Archicad becoming even more BLOATED with options that the average architect just doesn't need and will distract users from their primary work flow.