cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Collaborate forum

MOD File Sized in AC25

Stuart_Clark
Contributor

Good Afternoon..!

 

Has anyone else noted increased file sizes when publishing MOD files from Archicad 25 4013 UKI..?

 

I am using an Iceberg file - published to MOD prior to inserting them above Project Zero

 

When I modelled a similar building in AC22 the "bits" were circa 1.5Mb they are now 30-70Mb Minimum

 

Anyone got any bright ideas..?

 

Stuart Clark

Automation in Architecture

 

Archicad 5-25

Mac OS 11.6.1

MacBookPro 2014

2.8GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7

16 GB1600MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2GB

4 REPLIES 4

Da3dalus
Enthusiast

Yes!  I just mentioned that to tech support in North America.  While we have NOT seen this using an Iceberg model, we have other exports.  In one case of a partial site plan file (very large site), previous exports were 15 MB, now 300 MB saved from my Mac or 95 MB saved from a Windows PC. As far as I can tell, we used the same procedure and very little changed information.  Seems to have occurred since last Hotfix update, 6004.

Chuck Kottka
Orcutt Winslow
Phoenix, Arizona, USA

ArchiCAD 25 (since 4.5)
Macbook Pro 15" Touchbar OSX 10.15 Core i7 2.9GHz/16GB RAM/Radeon Pro560 4GB

File size problems is a known issue with 25.

However it should not be happening with the latest update.

 

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-Management-articles/Archicad-25-sudden-file-size-increas...

 

The only way to repair the file is to send it to your local Archicad support.

 

If the problem is happening to files since you have updated, then it either hasn't been fixed after all or it is something peculiar with MOD files that has been missed.

Either way, contact your local Archicad support people.

 

Barry.

 


One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 25
Dell XPS- i7-6700 @ 3.4Ghz, 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 960 (2GB), Windows 10
Dell Precision 3510 - i7 6820HQ @ 2.70GHz, 16GB RAM, AMD FirePro W5130M, Windows 10

Stuart_Clark
Contributor

Ok,

 

By way of an update, I've contacted GSUK with a view to having them sorted out.  

 

As an interim work around I've switched to inventory mode with the source file in v24 and the container file in v25.  

 

top versions with AC25 bottom versions - same file migrated backwards using AC24top versions with AC25 bottom versions - same file migrated backwards using AC24

 

This has reduced the file sizes back to 1.5-15Mb and the PLN size from 1GB to 250Mb, and made it usable - for now at least

 

Let's hope I can keep my attributes consistent between versions whilst they sort it out...!?!?!?!?!?!

 

Stuart Clark

Automation in Architecture

 

Archicad 5-25

Mac OS 11.6.1

MacBookPro 2014

2.8GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7

16 GB1600MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2GB

Stuart_Clark
Contributor

I have had a response from Graphisoft which I thought warranted sharing here

 

Apparently the problem arises because of a "bug" fix.  In my opinion its not a "bug" and didnt need fixing.

 

Their response was as follows:

 

The reason for having more classification items compared to AC24's module is due to the fix for defect DEF-406 (Properties of hotlink lost their unused classification).

 

Previously we did not save every classification of those which were necessary to preserve the availability of the properties' and this caused problems.
Now if we save a property then we save those classification items which are in a property's availability and this results in an increased size.

As a result we would suggest reconsidering the availabilities of the used properties in the project file, especially if it is really necessary for some of the properties to be available for every classification under UniClass 2015.

Otherwise, we can put a registry key to alter this behavior, at the cost of reversing the fix for DEF-406:
- On macOS: under /Users/<user>/Library/Preferences/com.graphisoft.AC-version.plist
- On Windows: HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Graphisoft/Archicad/Archicad-version
Create the key Module File and within it a value named SaveMinimalClassificationSet (REG_DWORD) set to 1.

This sets AC back to the previous functionality in AC24

 

My thoughts are:

 

So my understanding is that this "bug" occured when people placed mod files with conflicting classification systems - which is an easy fix for the user

the "fix" requires the user to update their template and restrict the availability of classifications.  This is not an easy fix for the user.

this is compounded by the fact that classifications and properties cant be applied to mod files once placed.

I wouldnt have considered it a bug that nees to be fixed.  

From a user point of view the flexibillity of being able to model a component using whatever tool I like and calssify it following that is one of the best things about Archicad.

This will become a problem for tech support once larger firms start migrating to Archicad 25

Here are my proposed solutions.

1. Allow MOD files to have properties and classifications applied in place. :0)

2. Allow the control of this behaviour on export within mod file options dialogue within in publisher/save selection as process.

3.  Allow control of this behaviour on import within hotlink module settings dialogue.

 

Other proposals will also be welcome.

 

Stuart Clark

Automation in Architecture

 

Archicad 5-25

Mac OS 11.6.1

MacBookPro 2014

2.8GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7

16 GB1600MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2GB

Start a new conversation!

Still looking?

Browse more topics

Back to forum

See latest solutions

Accepted solutions

Start a new discussion!