cost or price in quantity bill

[Anonymous]

how i can add price or cost to quantity bill in : 1-normal quantity bill
2 - if i have complex wall how i can put price for every material please i need it >>>>>>>>>> see the attachement

[Anonymous]

felcunha wrote:
You can find it into cigraph site. I'm not sure it will keep working in AC22 because the way it generates lists is going to change...

Not sure what you mean, cause on the download page, the highest supported ArchiCAD version is 20:
http://www.cigraph.it/en/node/101

[poco2013]

FYI

If you just have a small number of material quantities that you want to track. You may want to check out expressions in 22. Basically you'll just make up a property constant for EACH material (surface or Building Material) that you want to track. Then make up a cost calculation for any object (wall) that contains a particular skin or material. Put all those calculations into the sequence section of the expression and it will select the appropriate one and ignore the rest. So for any object (wall) you could calculate the # of bricks, ft of siding , gals of paint, sheathing, nails, etc. Then create a total in the interactive schedule.

I say small number because expressions can not address a database, so you would need an expression value for every condition anticipated (not practical). Also, generally you would use, as a base, the net surface property. However, net surface is not available for walls with multiple skins, as in a pony wail. SO -- a bad limitation.

Archicad has released a video and a help topic on the use of the Sequence tool in expressions. There is also a video on YouTube on simple keynotes that uses this process.

[Anonymous]

poco2013 wrote:
FYI

If you just have a small number of material quantities that you want to track. You may want to check out expressions in 22. Basically you'll just make up a property constant for EACH material (surface or Building Material) that you want to track. Then make up a cost calculation for any object (wall) that contains a particular skin or material. Put all those calculations into the sequence section of the expression and it will select the appropriate one and ignore the rest. So for any object (wall) you could calculate the # of bricks, ft of siding , gals of paint, sheathing, nails, etc. Then create a total in the interactive schedule.

I say small number because expressions can not address a database, so you would need an expression value for every condition anticipated (not practical). Also, generally you would use, as a base, the net surface property. However, net surface is not available for walls with multiple skins, as in a pony wail. SO -- a bad limitation.

Archicad has released a video and a help topic on the use of the Sequence tool in expressions. There is also a video on YouTube on simple keynotes that uses this process.

You have a link to this video?;)

[poco2013]

HELP
https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/tips/archicad/expression-based-properties-faq/

Calculations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_udM8NeAAUs

Keynotes

https://www.youtube.com/edit?ar=1&o=U&video_id=8C8kMmKKHJY

[Anonymous]

Indeed; that worked fine.

Thanks.

Quite a big job setting everything up for a big house, though;)

[Steve Jepson]

famadorian wrote:
Indeed; that worked fine.

Thanks.

Quite a big job setting everything up for a big house, though;)

...and probably for no good reason since the price for each item is almost never directly related to the coast of construction. All that work to put a price on individual elements is a waste of time when the cost is based on the square foot, if even that. The price of the house is based on what it will appraise and sell for, which is entirely subjective. And the local lumber yard will do the quantity take off with state-of-the-art software for free. And for many things, this is just to establish your price per board foot for the project based on the volume you will buy. They will deliver what seems right, bring out more if you need it, and give you a credit for what you didn't use. It is entirely possible that no one ever did need to know any exact quantities or even the prices.

You need formulas for construction cost estimating. ArchiCAD is not going to be great at that even with Expressions.
However, ArchiCAD can extract the data you need to use in those formulas into schedules you can export to Excel for final tweaking. This is still the optimal way to generate useful schedules I think.
What expressions do is help you get the data you need into schedules you can export. It does not do much to improve what you can do with an Interactive Schedule. ( as far as I know )
I really hope someone can show me that this is not true and that expressions are a huge improvement for Interactive Schedules.

[Erwin Edel]

No hands on experience yet, but in our local layer standard, so to speak, you deal with the same chapters (groundwork, foundations, masonry, etc etc) as in typical cost calculation and contract documentation.

I'm hopeful that I can make schedules per chapter / layer, as these ussually go by the same unit of measurement (m³ for concrete poured for foundations, m² for masonry, etc) and just have a booklet of these in my template to indeed help with inputting the numbers to excel. Now if for some far fetched reason I am able to also calculate the cost of materials and hours of labour (multiplied by wage) AND add the taxes, insurance, profit and risk margins etc: yes I will get it all out of ARCHICAD, but I doubt that!

The way we have it now is we have one MASSIVE schedule that extracts all units of measurement for all layers and elements and we just wade through the collumns to look for the numbers and take them to excel.

We are allways within 5% of the end result after the tender finished, so I am pretty confident in our cost estimating skills as an office . (Allthough the current market in NL is dealing with rediculous increase in costs!)