finish schedule

[Anonymous]

I am new to ArchiCAD and have found the manual virtually worthless so I am here hoping someone can help me! How do you create a room finish schedule using the zone tool and listing parameters? If it can't be sompletely created in ArchiCAD (I don't want to export anything to Excel) then I don't need to know the solution. Thanks in advance!

[Anonymous]

I am in the same predicament. Is there a way to do this?

[Anonymous]

ljhaven wrote:
I am new to ArchiCAD and have found the manual virtually worthless so I am here hoping someone can help me! How do you create a room finish schedule using the zone tool and listing parameters? If it can't be sompletely created in ArchiCAD (I don't want to export anything to Excel) then I don't need to know the solution. Thanks in advance!

Hallo, I do room schedule by Interactive Schedule. I'm from Czech republic so I use zone stamp modified for czech so I don't know what do you want to have in your schedule.
I'm sorry for my english...I speak only a little:)

[Anonymous]

I would like to re-ask this question. Does anyone have any input on this question??

[Anonymous]

Can someone please tell me how to use the listing parameters of a zone to generate a interactive finish schedule??
thank you

[Karl Ottenstein]

You cannot have a zone that will automatically pick up the parameters of its boundary walls, slabs, ceilings. But, as you say, you can store the schedule information in the listing parameters and schedule that.

In these forums, you can search for other posts that address the technique required with the interactive scheduler by searching for 'additional parameters'.

Basically, every parameter of every library part can be scheduled. The listing parameters are like any other param.

In the Fields tab of the I.S. for your zone schedule, select Additional Parameters, show "All Types by Subtype", browse to General GDL Object > Drawing Symbol > Zone Stamp and finally select the stamp you are using.

For example, if you are using Zone Identifier, you will find the parameters Wall Finish/E, /N, /S, and /W as well as a variety of User Defined fields - all of which can be used to store the info for the zone and create the schedule.

If all you want is finishes (all entered manually - simply stored in the database for each zone), that should be fine. If you want to know a total of areas using a particular finish in order to make a cost or material estimate, this method won't do the trick.

If instead you want to automatically pick up the finish (as determined by the applied material name) of each surface, things are easy until you want these finishes by-zone. For example, if you create a IS schedule based on Walls, you can pick up one of the zone names and numbers of the (possibly many) zones that are touching the reference line ... but you can't pick up the zone name(s) for the non-reference line side.

I haven't thought about this much, but I think that only a custom API-based add-on can do an automatic by-zone surface take-off. Don't know of one out there.

(SQL can determine all zones that the wall is in - rather than just one as in the IS, but cannot report which zone is on which side (finish) of the wall.)

I've never had to generate a finish schedule. Hopefully, someone here who has done so may have some more ideas for you. 😉

Karl

[Anonymous]

There is a radio button in the Model Tab of the Zone Tool Window that one can turn on so that the Zone inherits the boundary wall and trimming edge materials.

I would have thought that this then would logically mean that a list of the inherited materials can be listed in the IS. Unfortunately this is not the case.

[toofuerte]

Well there a couple ways that I have been working on to create a finish schedule, one is to use the IS. When setting up the list set it to use a label abc Element ID, set the value to the name of the room. Then use the wall, ceiling and/or floor accessory tool and place them in the drawing with zone accessories. Then make sure the accessories have all ID the same as the name of the room or zone. Then make the list with the parameters that you want. Using the is set up all the fileds you need to create the lists.

I hope this makes sense, because I am still working out the process.

[Anonymous]

Karl wrote:
...You cannot have a zone that will automatically pick up the parameters of its boundary walls, slabs, ceilings. But, as you say, you can store the schedule information in the listing parameters and schedule that.

Basically, every parameter of every library part can be scheduled. The listing parameters are like any other param.

In the Fields tab of the I.S. for your zone schedule, select Additional Parameters, show "All Types by Subtype", browse to General GDL Object > Drawing Symbol > Zone Stamp and finally select the stamp you are using.

For example, if you are using Zone Identifier, you will find the parameters Wall Finish/E, /N, /S, and /W as well as a variety of User Defined fields - all of which can be used to store the info for the zone and create the schedule...

Karl

Picking up on Karl's post, here's a sample of what you can do. If you're just doing a simple schedule this should do it. Kinda' limited but it kinda' works...

Is this what you're trying to do?

HTH
Dan K

[toofuerte]

Well that is kind of what I am trying to do But I am trying to create a list for all elements like in the bathroom, there all the fixtures and so forth, but we want to be able to take a list to the clients with all the basics of what everything is. For example, we want to have a sink with style, color,shape, manufacturer, finish..... I know that I can put all that information in a list but I was trying to set a whole list so I can keep using in new projects and not need to redo it... I guess I can just create each list and put them in excel. then have the client and designer fill it out....

Thanks for your help!