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[Anonymous]

I saw some documents to compare between Revit and AC.
I study Revit from own website.
It is just copy from AC!!

I used to work with AC (and very satisfied, and like many friends from AC-forum).
As AC-user I hope, AC must be better than Revit for Architects.

I have not used Revit, but just seen from Website.
The web-site from Revit is so nice, that I must believe, Revit should be better than AC.

I like to know your opinions and also opinions from GS.

Thanks

[Chazz]

One of my frustrations with learning more about Revit is that I could not get a live/hosted demo of it. Even calling a reseller got me nowwhere. It seems like one could attend any number of Archicad "roadshow" events but I've not seen the same thing for Revit..

That is until I saw this last week. Mostly Northern California but I'm sure they are now happening all over.

[Chadwick]

AFAIK, you can get a demo of Revit right off of Autodesk's website - after 30 or 90 days it turns into a viewer. I'm pretty sure thats how it works.

[Scott Davis]

Chadwick wrote:
AFAIK, you can get a demo of Revit right off of Autodesk's website - after 30 or 90 days it turns into a viewer. I'm pretty sure thats how it works.

Yes, fully functional 30 day demo available via the Autodesk website. When it expires, you lose the ability to print/save/export. So it becomes basically a viewer. The EXE is only 110 megs, so it's not too bad to install.

[Anonymous]

hi all,

this forum feels like a debate on another website 2 years ago between 3dsMAX users and Alias Maya users. of coz, autodesk eventually acquired MAya.

Our office has been trialing archicad and revit to try to evaluate a good one to go with. archicad has been put to the test on on a couple of project since and it rocks...when compared to autocad that is.

however since the release of revit8 and our acquisition of a couple of lics in the office, i had to opportunity to have a go at it in the concept phases of a project. I have to admit that i'm really impressed with the revit 's toolset and features.

best things about revit that archicad's lacking..
1) ability to see grid lines / section lines automatically in section views whenever they cross reference.
2)ability to freeform model massing models from within revit and convert surfaces to roofs/ curtain walls / floor slabs.
3)able to import nurbs and sat solids from autocad/rhino/maya
4)site terrains automatically generate contour lines when spot elevations are entered.
5) 2 way interactive scheduling
6) ablilty to diemension from the centre of the core of a wall.

best things about archicad lacking in revit
1) marqueing and viewing only selected region in 3d.
2) intuitive interface
3) 3ds in/out

that being said, i'm dissappointed as to why graphisoft is taking so long in implementing some of the most obvious useful features . eg. automatically seeing grid lines/ section markers in cross ref'd section views.

i really enjoy using AC, but unless it beefs up quickly, I afraid the momentum of revit may catch up .

[Rob]

dear 6randon

good news mate your dreams have come true, well at least 3 of them I know about:

1) ability to see grid lines / section lines automatically in section views whenever they cross reference
you can see them now even in the 3D window (perspective or axonometric)

4)site terrains automatically generate contour lines when spot elevations are entered.
Architerra is an extra add-on has been on the market for ages - it will do what you are after and much more

5) 2 way interactive scheduling
done in AC10 with a very nice interface


6) ability to dimension from the centre of the core of a wall.
not sure about this one (not using that often) but I am pretty sure that is possible as the wall tool went through the major overhaul

now, who is looking better?

[Rakela Raul]

and items 2 & 3 i think are covered with cinema 4d (maxom form) which is very much within archicad and
item 6 i dont think it is possible even in ac10

[Anonymous]

I don't know about item 3, but all the others can be done in ArchiCAD; just not as easily as in Revit. The question I have is how does Revit compare for producing a complete set of drawings? I had the impression that this used to be a shortcoming. Is this true? Has it improved?

[Scott Davis]

6randon wrote:
best things about archicad lacking in revit
1) marqueing and viewing only selected region in 3d.
2) intuitive interface
3) 3ds in/out

1. Has been a Revit "feature" for some time. Create a callout, switch to a 3D view (perspective or iso) and go to View>Orient>to Other View, an select the callout you made. Instant 3D "section box" of just the area you selected.

2. Intuitive is subjective. I feel Revit has an intuitive interface.

3. No 3DS (yet) but there is DWG/DXF/DGN an now IFC.

[Rakela Raul]

1. Has been a Revit "feature" for some time. Create a callout, switch to a 3D view (perspective or iso) and go to View>Orient>to Other View, an select the callout you made. Instant 3D "section box" of just the area you selected.

wow ! sounds like a trip scott but doable nevertheless.

i agree with ur opinion about intuitiveness, also has to do with personal experience and training w other software ....not that i would agree that form z might have an intuitive interface for somebody !!

[Anonymous]

Rakela wrote:

....not that i would agree that form z might have an intuitive interface for somebody !!

I happen to know that is is quite intuitive to the people that wrote it. But no-one else that I am aware of.