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Stairs without thickness

Johann_P
Advocate

I seem to have broken my stairs.....

 

In the file I'm working on the stairs have no thickness and I dont know how to fix it.

I've copied stairs from another file that shows correctly in 3D, but when I paste the stair the thickness disappears too.

 

It doesn't seem to be an MVO issue.
Here are the settings....

 

 

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Barry Kelly
Moderator

Is your 3D view using a different MVO scheme to the one you are showing in the settings?

 

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mija
Enthusiast

Hi,

 

maybe you turned off structure in stair settings?

 

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Archicad 25, build 4013
Montenegro

Hi @Barry Kelly 

 

Nope, I believe the MVO of the view is what shown.

Here is the screenshot of the view and MVO settings.

I've even "Redefined with current window settings" once or twice to be sure.

 

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I have a similar issue with my railings.
Here is a screenshot of the Elevation which shows the stair and railing differently to what is shown in the 3D view

 

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Johann_P
Advocate

Thank @mija 

 

Nope, Stair Structure box is ticked.....

 

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This seems to me as more of a bug, and not some settings command. Did you try maybe shifting settings of stair between schematic and then back to full? 

This 3d representation of your stairs and railings looks like it's schematic...


Archicad 25, build 4013
Montenegro
Johann_P
Advocate

Thanks @mija 

I tried that, but no change.....

 

I created 2 test MVO settings

One with full 3D and the other with Schematic.

 

When I apply the 2, Schematic & Full MVOs it changes on the elevation as I would expect.

But it does not seem to have any influence on the 3D view. 

 

I also drew a new stair. So one is monolithic, the other has stringers & treads.
For material the one has concrete, the other is wood

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Barry Kelly
Moderator

This is a strange one,

You seem to be doing everything correctly.

 

It definitely seems to be an MVO problem.

As the MVO options are actually controlled by the loaded library, I am wondering if there is some sort of library conflict.

Could you show an image of your Library Manager, showing what libraries you have loaded, and if there are any warnings?

 

Barry.

 

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Johann_P
Advocate

Hi @Barry Kelly 

 

Here the screenshot.

 

I ended up modeling the stairs and railings with slabs, columns and beams as I needed it rendered yesterday.

 

But this is still an issue I would really like to resolve.

Thanks for all the contributions and suggestions everybody.....

 

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Thanks for that.

That looks pretty normal too.

 

Just out of interest, what happens if you delete the migration libraries?

You can always add it back if things go missing (or just don't save the project).

I am just wondering if there is some sort of 'Library Global' conflict there which is what the MVO uses.

 

The only other thing I can think of is something to do with renovation filters.

What happens if you turn on a reno filter that shows everything?

 

Barry.

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