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Hmooslechner
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Archicad 18 open Profile follows open path in 3d:



its an Archicad 18 3D profile-polygon:

in a few days at Bimcomponents:

"DynPolySchrIstTubeQuerschnitt"

before there downloadable:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1c3svw53ipdp1a4/FreiformPolygon.pln?dl=0
my Dropbox. Its an AC18EduAut - file

Youtube english:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWLnMUIT6yA
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sinceV6
Enthusiast
Hi.

Issue with z coordinates in 2D in original Dynamic Polyline base code object thread:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=43721

In 2D, when moving a point on top of the previous one, z coordinate is not carried over. Has to do with removing points and the way the script iterates from the first point to the last. Never had time to take another shot at solving it, but not a major issue for me.

Best regards.

Here is the updated object with the x,y,z replacements. its way less painful to look through now for sure. the tube is working well as long as i leave the base locked. Ill probably fix that next. I am still getting the material to map the way i want, probably something easy im just missing.

https://copy.com/G0GN8Z4Bs34SmOsq

edit: its a new link now i fixed more things or made them work with my tube, still struggling to map the material along the path of the tube
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Okay, Here is my final base excluding the arcs. the tube works in all scenarios if the base is locked or not and if the first and last points are the same. and i got the materials to map correctly! at least so far it is working.

Its crazy how the same thing can be accomplished in such different ways. I have no clue how Hmooslechner mapped the materials in his object, i still read through it and get confused. but here it is, let me know what you guys think


Edit: the material mapping currently is only on x and y. im still working on the z

Edit: okay i got the 3d mapping to work now too.




https://copy.com/R39vEN0JWisTqFX4
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FREE wall Accessory framing and coverings - bit.ly/BIMRithmWallAccessories
FREE Truss object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmTrussV1
FREE Custom Tube Object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmPolyTube
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Now I can post an object relative to this thread! ha ha, here is my version of your open profile to follow open path. I still have to work out the kinks in the z space but it works with its material mapping in x and y, the z just skews the tube with out flat spots. ill try to add that next and then the 2d stuff, i added a project for now but i plan on changing it to be hotlines with a fill too.

from what i can tell other than the z it works almost just like yours you all have been some major inspiration.

https://copy.com/rIYwGGJuGgN0AFTy


and here is my initial attempt to loop the polyline infinite, i have the master and parameters scripts working (or so i think) but im lock in place with the current errors. it would be cool if we can get it to work


https://copy.com/WPAzuJVc8K0Tm2Et
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FREE Truss object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmTrussV1
FREE Custom Tube Object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmPolyTube
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Mario Sacco
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Hmooslechner wrote:
Hi Mariosmic!
Thx for the flowers..
Some ideas to Your polyline:
........
Hi Hmooslechner.
I read only now your message. I don't understand sometime I don't recive notify.
I worked hard and created a final objects editable both 2d and 3d as a polyline, adding new point and curve. It's possible. But it's part of an objects I'm selling and I can't share it. I need to get out the only part of the code of the polyline to share it. I don't know if I'll have ever time. I promise you I'll try. Let me know what is your problem now; I'll try to give you the solution with words. I'm also updating the objects 3DMD Polyline Fence and 3DMD Polyline Path with the same macro; but the code is locked because I use it to create selling objects.
I don't have time to download your objects and test them; please share photos.
Here the video of the object 3DMD Polyline Rail Panel that uses the polyline.

http://youtu.be/Czm-tmcHpls

A limited dimension version of the objects is on BIM Components
https://bimcomponents.com/GSM/Details/20056
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Hmooslechner
Advisor
Hi Mariosmic!

Your Railing-part is obviously the best railing-Object for Stairs i have seen so far!

I will spread Your Video - in our region - to raise Your chances for selling it - if You like! Now its all going the right direction! i hope You are very proud of this!

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Hmooslechner wrote:
They made a function-change possible by using the normal object-dialog. That is a little bit "stone-age" in my opinion...

My idea goes this way: (not really my idea - it has been done similar in the random city object)


Place a little pictogram near the polyline in the drawing-editor - with a hotspot-switch. This should be possible to be turnd off after the operations.

If the switch is in the normal edit-field - the edit of the cornerpoints is possible.
If the switch is in the field for "growing" - the same hotspot works for growing of the polygone-shape
If the switch is in the field for segment-growing - the middle-point grows just this one segment.
If the switch is in the field for Corner-rounding - the same klick on the hotspot rounds the corner
If the switch is in the field for rounding the segments - the middlepoint works to round it like Your functionality.

This could be very near the normal polygon-behaviour in Archicad like editing slabs or hatches with the pet-pal.


The next thing i am thinking of - is: to use just one simple parameter for one polygon - one array with three dimensions for x, y, z and maybe some Flags for function changes - but that is future-music.. So it would be much easier to work with it in GDL - to copy the functionality for more open polygons in one GDL

In my last objects where i made three open polygons-profiles following an open path - it had to copy Esteban ramos-code in the 2D-GDL, the Masterscript, the Parameter-script and the 3D-Script and had to change the name of every parameter for each different polygone x+y (+ Z). The possibility of making some mistakes is very high - and very time-consuming for each profile.

Just one parameter-Array for all of this should be much easier and easier to understand... to alter and to use with less mistakes!

I honestly can't believe i hadn't though of this single array idea. nice. so i applied it, well mostly. take a look


edit: it seems doing this created a bug with adding points... attempting to fix it but not sure what is causing the problem or how its is i guess

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FREE wall Accessory framing and coverings - bit.ly/BIMRithmWallAccessories
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FREE Custom Tube Object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmPolyTube
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Well i got my arcs started... they are half working in the polyline, still have to apply them to the tube. but you can edit the profile in 3d and the second profile can be a hole

https://copy.com/lFKKPyJ2F2nYRco0
FREE Soffit & Fascia for Rail Tool - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmSoffitandFascia
FREE wall Accessory framing and coverings - bit.ly/BIMRithmWallAccessories
FREE Truss object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmTrussV1
FREE Custom Tube Object - https://bit.ly/BIMRithmPolyTube
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Mario Sacco
Booster
Hmooslechner wrote:
Hi Mariosmic!

Your Railing-part is obviously the best railing-Object for Stairs i have seen so far!

I will spread Your Video - in our region - to raise Your chances for selling it - if You like! Now its all going the right direction! i hope You are very proud of this!

Thank-you Hmooslechner. I'm working on many other parameters. It's very hard. But it seems there are not obstacles in the languages. It needs only time.
Now I'm working on moving and adding new post. In a 3d polyline arc/straight there are a huge amount of variables. Sometime I lost!!!!

I'd like to share my work. But in this forum there is not a section for these kind of post, such us: "what are you working on? Post here!"
It could be nice have a section like this.
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boatingcow
Beginner
These are brilliant. I'm slowly getting to grips with GDL and I wonder if you have a version that works in ArchiCAD 17 to look at the code? Thanks!
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Mario Sacco
Booster
boatingcow wrote:
These are brilliant. I'm slowly getting to grips with GDL and I wonder if you have a version that works in ArchiCAD 17 to look at the code? Thanks!
The code is locked cause I use it as master to make commercial object you can find on my web site.
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Anonymous
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Most of the download links are dead, I don't suppose anyone could re-host?

Mario Sacco
Booster
Roland wrote:
Most of the download links are dead, I don't suppose anyone could re-host?
I moved all the objects to a new website:
Www.3dmediadesign.it

You can find here the free and commercial object.
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Anonymous
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mariosmic wrote:
Roland wrote:
Most of the download links are dead, I don't suppose anyone could re-host?
I moved all the objects to a new website:
Www.3dmediadesign.it

You can find here the free and commercial object.
Thanks for that - you guys have some very nice objects.

Anonymous
Not applicable
Great!

Hmooslechner
Advisor
Although - there are certain good functioning solutions for freeform windows available in the web - i tried to start a new one with the code from VinceV6.

It takes the polygone - closed - for the wallhole-command and puts certain tubes on it to simulate the window-frame and other parts like the exterior and interior plaster - so that the section-shows the plaster also in the window-reveal - which is not implemented in the normal archicad-window -library yet. (here - only in the 2D-groundview its implemented - but not in 3D and not in the sections!!?).

My problems here:

First: How can i supress the separation line between the wallhole and my plaster-tube?

Second: GDL provides me with the names of the building-materials of the layers in the wall. But building-materials cant be used directly in GDL - just surface-materials. Is there a possibility to get the right surfacematerials out of the names of the buildingmaterials?

If someone wants to try: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ke1xb550qhnb7r9/Multifenster.pln?dl=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAle4Nl-3G4&feature=youtu.be
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Hmooslechner
Advisor
In the meantime, i figured aut, that it seems to be simply locked by Graphisoft, to read out the building materials - but just for 3d. In 2D ist is possible to use the commands and it works perfect but in 3 D - no way!
 

WSBN=WALL_SKINS_BMAT_NAMES[1]            !building material


t = REQUEST{2} ("Building_Material_info", WSBN, "gs_bmat_surface", surface)  !!GDL-manual german S378
r = REQUEST ("Name_of_material", surface, name)


I tried the code above in the masterscript - which works for both 2D and 3D-scripts - but it makes different results.

Very bad! It took me hours to find out and to really belive it!!

Why is this made this way by Graphisoft? Is this one of the intern not really documented "policys" do make it really hard to script good library-Parts?

I hope someone from Graphisoft reads this and feels my .... disappointment...


Who is the woman or man there -the BOSS of GDL at Graphisoft - who makes such decicions - i really would like to get in contact directly!

Please - if You read this, "GDL-Boss" - Yes - You - write back here "in the open", come into the discussion - take part - please!
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Hmooslechner wrote:
Please - if You read this, "GDL-Boss" - Yes - You - write back here "in the open", come into the discussion - take part - please!
You might want to try posting your concern on the new GDL Center Forum.

http://gdl.graphisoft.com/forums/

Graphisoft seem to take a more active role with regards to GDL there.

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
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Hmooslechner
Advisor
I have posted there the same - lets have a look, if they respond or not..

gdl.graphisoft.com/forums/topic/wall_comps_name-not-being-recognised-from-verion-17-onwards/
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Mario Sacco
Booster
Barry wrote:
You might want to try posting your concern on the new GDL Center Forum.

http://gdl.graphisoft.com/forums/

Graphisoft seem to take a more active role with regards to GDL there.

Barry.
Why don't close this gdl forum?
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