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Anonymous
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I am meeting with a client on monday and I would like some comments on what else I can do to "spruce it up".

Dandy Revision3.jpg
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Thomas Holm
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Smaller parking lot?

Well, jokes aside, I would lighten it up a bit in Photoshop. De-saturate etc. Try to get hold of one of Dwight's books (these issues are covered in the old one *Illustration in Archicad* as well)

Then create a welcoming close-up of the entrance!
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Anonymous
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The parking lot is large for the RV's. It's an outdoor's center and RV dealer. I have purchased LW in Archicad. I was mainly looking to see if somebody had suggestions for minor details. I don't have photoshop. Are there any other programs to do touch-up work in?

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
Gimp is a Image editor and it is free.

www.gimp.org/downloads/

THe thing that bothers me about your rendering is the camera position. It is better to present more than one shot that emphasize specifics than trying to create one all encompassing shot.
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TomWaltz
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It kind of looks like your camera is too high, making the whole site look like it is floating in the air.

I'm with ejrolon, that the camera position is more of an establishing shot and a design shot at the same time and might be better accomplished with a couple shots instead of one.
Tom Waltz

Rakela Raul
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try to move the background sky or add higher background cuz the bldg looks on top of a peak on a mountain.

change the roof color or put a diff material, it seems grass roofing

add trees or people or cars from imagecels, and the rest of the comments
are all good...and if design errors, cover it up with vegetation x presentation !!!

more light also
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Thomas Holm
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If you're the least serious about this, you will need a photo editor. I don't know about the Gimp, but Photoshop Elements will do what you need. Not expensive. The image definitely needs de-saturation. If you print it, you'll see. It will be too candy-like, especiallly on a decent ink-jet.

I think it's OK with a grass roof. I thought it was intentional. But I agree it's a problem to try to show the whole project in one shot. If that's needed, I think the angle of view is OK. Some vegetation would be nice. Maybe a car or two. I definitely think a close-up of the entrance would be a nice companion to this one.
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Karl Ottenstein
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Colyer-Lloyd wrote:
The parking lot is large for the RV's. It's an outdoor's center and RV dealer. I have purchased LW in Archicad. I was mainly looking to see if somebody had suggestions for minor details. I don't have photoshop. Are there any other programs to do touch-up work in?
I suggest Photoshop Elements also - between $60 and $100.

Besides desaturating, often you want to crop in an image because you cannot get the camera view to show exactly what you want.

I have a pet peeve about so many home renderings and photography on real estate pages where you have this massive lawn and way in the distance you see the home. Unless the home is a dump and the yard is the selling point, those images just irk me. Your rendering seems to focus on the parking lot. Because this is an RV dealer, maybe that is the focus. But, perhaps several views would speak better than one.

Attached is just one cropping to still indicate the parking lot but without it completely dominating the composition. Like others say, the image needs some plants, vehicles, etc. to have life. A different sun angle might be worth looking at, too.

Have fun with it.

Karl
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Anonymous
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If you want to show the client the WHOLE SCENE, perhaps a birds eye view will do it best. The pull-in to specific areas with a human scale camera for building details.

Totally agree about the glowing grass, de-saturate your texture.

Dwight
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While supporting all prior comments, try to bias the composition to the right or left - still fill the image with building, but make the composition less symmetric.

All rendered images have too much color....

Move the sun to illuminate all of the front of the building.... even if that is a sunrise or sunset....

Clouds are ambiguous - find a background with an actual horizon to give depth...
Dwight Atkinson

Anonymous
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Alright, made some changes. I didn't even catch the grass roof. Wow, that would have been embarrassing. Please, try not to laugh at the landscaping. I tried a photo with a horizon, but when i went to lighten the rendering, all of my blue sky left too. Thank you guys so much for the input.

Rakela Raul
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wow, congrats
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Anonymous
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Comments anybody? Our meeting was cancelled till tomorrow, so any other comments would be grateful.

Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
just a little photoshop to try to make the image to be more of a drawing
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Anonymous
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That's a pretty neat effect.

Karl Ottenstein
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Attached is a quick and pretty cheesy paint-up of your revised image in Piranesi. Using the standard styles and not doing much hand work gives it the cookie cutter look. (Also, Piranesi can 'lock' on colors, but with continuous tone jpegs, it is pretty tough. Piranesi is designed to paint the actual 3D model via the 2.5D 'epix' format. Then, you can quickly bucket sky reflection into the windows, etc.)

Cheers,
Karl
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Dwight
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The first thing to do with a plain building like this is to recompose the shot and add an interesting sky - with an implication of a horizon
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Anonymous
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I like it! Is that done in Photoshop?

Dwight
Newcomer
Yes. Photoshop - or whatever.

I knocked-out your plain sky and dropped this in behind.

Then I stretched it and graduated the sky to simulate a horizon.
beautiful cloudy sky.jpg
Dwight Atkinson

Dwight
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Further to PHotoshop use:

ArchiCAD Photoshoppistas should know about
Adobe Studio Exchange, where tricks and utilities are exchanged.

http://share.studio.adobe.com/Default.asp

In particular, you want to search for Photoshop Actions - macros that apply a sequence of effects and filters for sophisticated effects.

For example, here's "Toy Camera" - not that you would use it, but it shows how it transmogrifies an image using several steps.
Dwight Atkinson

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