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Expression cannot be evaluated - Property Manger

tjmillar
Enthusiast

I want to label an empty opening with the Header to Wall Top dimension. That figure is available in the info box under Sill or Header Height, but not as a figure I can use in a label. 

In Property Manager, when I try to create a property to display this figure so that I can use it in a label, I use Data Type "Length", select "Expression", and add the "Header Height to Wall Top" parameter from the "Opening" group. When I click Evaluate, I get "Expression cannot be evaluated for this element". Even though Archicad does evaluate this figure in the info box. 

Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

AC26 Australia, Windows 10
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The primary problem , as you have stated, is that empty door openings do not have a property of "height above to top of wall" This would be a simple calculation except it involves two difference elements -- So a expression can not be used.

The solution is to use a Python script to make the calculation and insert the result into a property classified for the door opening.

 

To do that one would need to be able to determine the wall that the door is in to get the wall height. Again -- that is not native to Python scripts (at this time) .

 

However, I have created a AddOn which uses the Python CommandHandler function and adds that capability to Python scripts -- data_access.apx

 

Made a video which explains the process

Lintel space calculation 

The AddOn and the Python script are posted on my GitHub site listed in the video comments.

If you have any questions - just leave them below

Gerry

Windows 11 - Visual Studio 2022; ArchiCAD 27

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poco2013
Mentor

Most likely, you have not classified it properly

Gerry

Windows 11 - Visual Studio 2022; ArchiCAD 27

It is classified as an opening. I have experimented with various classifications, and when it is classified incorrectly the error message says that the parameter is not available for that classification, not that it cannot be evaluated. 

AC26 Australia, Windows 10

If your using the evaluate function, perhaps you have the wall selected rather than the opening

Gerry

Windows 11 - Visual Studio 2022; ArchiCAD 27

The opening is selected. You cannot evaluate the expression otherwise. If you select the wall, the classification is wrong and you get a "Property is not available for this Element's Classification" error.

AC26 Australia, Windows 10

If you have classified the expression for "all elements" or for both "walls" and "empty openings" you will get that message. The opening expression should be classified as "empty opening" only Then select the opening

Gerry

Windows 11 - Visual Studio 2022; ArchiCAD 27
Rajesh Patil
Expert

If you are applying "Opening" elements parameter to "Empty Door" parameter it wont work as these are two different elements.

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Rajesh Patil
AC 09-27 | INT | WIN11 64
Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i9, 9880H 2.30GHz, 16.0GB, NVidia GeForce GTX1650, 4.0GB, SSD Internal 500GB, Dell SSD External 250GB
tjmillar
Enthusiast

Thank you Rajesh, that is the issue. I was using Rectangular Door Opening 25, and applying a parameter from the Opening group. Changing the classification to Opening or Empty Opening (or anything else) doesn't fix that issue. If I create an Opening with the Opening tool instead of an empty opening with the door tool the property works. 

So how do I create a label that returns the figure I can see in the Info Box? (Header to Wall top) There are no parameters in the Window/Door group that relate to the wall height, but again, it is a simple option to display that figure in the info box. I just need to be able to put that figure into a label. 

I could use the opening tool instead of the rectangular door opening, but it's not as versatile and I would prefer not to have to resort to that. 

 

AC26 Australia, Windows 10
Yves
Advocate

Hi,
With two formulas, one for doors and one for openings

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Yves Houssier
Belgium
Archicad 19 -> 24
iMac - Mac Os 10,13
tjmillar
Enthusiast

Thanks for your response Yves. I'm sorry but I can't see how that helps. If I use an opening rather than an empty door there is no problem, I can apply the parameter I need (header to wall top - though will need to convert if from a negative to a positive figure for the label). But I want that figure for an empty door, and unlike the list of parameters for openings, there are no parameters for doors and windows that relate to the height of the wall. 

AC26 Australia, Windows 10