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How to schedule and show walls as fire walls

Anonymous
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Hello,

Im trying to figure out how I can create a fire wall with the wall tool, so that when it is shown in plan, it will have a fire wall line type associated with it.

I know I could simply draw a line over the wall to represent the fire wall, and then add the IFC firewall value, but i was hoping for something a little more automated and connected.

Any ideas or recommendations?
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Anonymous
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I found and answer to my question and just figured I would post it here for anyone else looking for something like this.

I am using a .gsm called NEO Firewall Line, and you can apply it to a selected wall by going to "DESIGN -> DESIGN EXTRAS -->ACCESSORIES --> WALL ACCESSORIES" and selecting the loaded NEO object. Then I would recommend putting it on a separate layer (A-WALL-FIRE) and using an Arhicad firewall line-type. This way you can turn off that layer in any plans which you do not want to see it.

Hope that helps.
Laszlo Nagy
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Interesting little solution and good lateral thinking.
Could you post an image of the results so we can see exactly what output you achieved with this method?
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Paul King
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adambeazley wrote:
I found and answer to my question and just figured I would post it here for anyone else looking for something like this.

I am using a .gsm called NEO Firewall Line, and you can apply it to a selected wall by going to "DESIGN -> DESIGN EXTRAS -->ACCESSORIES --> WALL ACCESSORIES" and selecting the loaded NEO object. Then I would recommend putting it on a separate layer (A-WALL-FIRE) and using an Arhicad firewall line-type. This way you can turn off that layer in any plans which you do not want to see it.

Hope that helps.
Sadly, seems not to do anything under ArchiCAD 18 - and I cannot even place as a discrete object, even when neofirewall.gsm is included in loaded libraries
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Barry Kelly
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Paul wrote:
Sadly, there seems to be no such menu item as "DESIGN -> DESIGN EXTRAS -->ACCESSORIES --> WALL ACCESSORIES" under ArchiCAD 18 -
Have you downloaded and installed the 'Accessories' add-on?
Download link is in the HELP menu.

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Paul King
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Barry wrote:
Paul wrote:
Sadly, there seems to be no such menu item as "DESIGN -> DESIGN EXTRAS -->ACCESSORIES --> WALL ACCESSORIES" under ArchiCAD 18 -
Have you downloaded and installed the 'Accessories' add-on?
Download link is in the HELP menu.

Barry.
Thanks Barry - Sorry I edited my post probably as you wrote your reply - but yes, Accessories are installed, and now that menu item is indeed there - but still no luck getting the object to appear. I can select the object as an accessory, and go through a placement process using it - but on completion, nothing appears different on plan - not even a missing library part symbol/spot
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I am guessing it is not layer visibility.
But could it have something to do with the renovation filters.
If you set the reno filters to show all elements does it show then?

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Paul King
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Barry wrote:
I am guessing it is not layer visibility.
But could it have something to do with the renovation filters.
If you set the reno filters to show all elements does it show then?

Barry.
Good thought - I have previously been playing with reno filters (trying to get them to display fire rated walls differently) but failing to get them to do anything at all - but could be a factor now.

That said, my current saved view renovation parameter I just set to 'Not in use' - with no change
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I see in the original post for this object ( http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=13399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=50 ) that it is now storey sensitive.
Could it be on another storey?

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Paul King
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Barry wrote:
I see in the original post for this object ( http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=13399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=50 ) that it is now storey sensitive.
Could it be on another storey?

Barry.
Just checked, but no - and the object dialog refers to current story of saved view (ground floor)

Does it work for you under AC18?
I don't see anything in object dialog preview window, whether 2D or 3D mode). Would I expect to?
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