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!Restored: Cinema 4D CE 6

Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Ola wrote:
I purchased Cinema 4D 8.2 and was wondering what the best way to export from Archicad and workflow. How does the rendering time vs result compare to Artlantis. Just purchased Piranesi also, I believe you can create a Epix file directly in C4D now

thanks
Lots of new toys! 😉

I only have C4D XL 7 - so AFAIK, there I have to use 3DS and Vedute to go into Piranesi. Nice if 8.2 allows it directly.

3DS format works well from AC to C4D. See various notes and comments in the archives at:

http://www.escribe.com/software/archicadtalk/

and there are also some good comments at:

http://www.fred-speaks.com/phpBB2/index.php

Some of those guys will hopefully re-post their comments here with some nice screenshots of the parameter settings dialogs (hint, hint).

As for speed, comparing C4D and Artlantis is difficult because C4D can do so much more than Artlantis, particularly as far as lighting goes...if you have the "Advanced Render" module (or the XL package). For comparable quality on a fast computer, I don't know that you'd see the difference. With a dual processor, C4D wins since Artlantis won't use the other processor. As soon as you use a radiosity solution, C4D will start to slow down (the race depends on your parameters and number of processors - or even network rendering, and option there and not with Artlantis) - but the results will astound you compared to Artlantis 'global illumination'.

[For example: if the C4D 8.2 CD contains some of the same sample scenes as XL7... look for a folder called 'Radiosity-LIght'. There's a JPG there ("Light") that is a wonderful demonstration of lighting effects that C4D can do and Artlantis cannot even come close to. Load the sample scene file in C4D and render it as a sample of how long such a thing takes on your computer. Not bad at all on mine. I've attached a cropped section of that image for others to see here ... image copyright Maxon Computer I should imagine.]

Including human time, Artlantis is a no-brainer IMHO - wins hands down for quick renderings.

Even if you cannot create the EPix file in C4D ... you can create the file in AC or Artlantis, then render the (same sized) image in C4D and finally import that image as the new Save RGB channel in Piranesi. Mix and match.

Have fun!

Karl

maxon-light.jpg
One of the forum moderators   •   AC 26 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.2, iMac Pro 10-Core, Radeon Pro Vega 64
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Anonymous
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Now this just get's confusing when the same posts are in different sections of the forum. I guess my answer (in the presentation - rendering & multi-media aection) is a somewhat shortened version of Karl's post though.

Justin
'just gettin' my post's up'

Djordje
Mentor
jp_walford wrote:
Now this just get's confusing when the same posts are in different sections of the forum.
Maybe we should try to keep ourselves on topic?

Earlier it was easy to start one thing, shoot off on a tangent, come back to the first topic, and finish with another. As easy now, BUT - creates confusion, as you say.

Think and read before you post
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Justin and Djordje (and Peter),

Well, I'm as confused as h*ll. There's got to be a bug in this forum software somewhere!

I posted my message in reply to a message from Ola in the 'Presentation - Rendering and Multimedia' forum - and with the subject "Re: Cinema 4D/Artlantis workflow". The actual message is:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=366#366

I have absolutely no idea why my reply ended up over here! Looking for it earlier today, I assumed it got lost - and was p'd because I didn't have a copy of it to repost - this forum being interactive as it is. On a lark, I searched for 'Maxon', since I knew I used their name in my post ... and found it here. Totally bizarre.

Djordje/Peter - can you move my message into the thread where it belongs? Any ideas how it got here (and with a different subject line)? The only thing I remember doing during creation was that I edited, previewed, and edited again several times before submitting.

Puzzled.

Karl
One of the forum moderators   •   AC 26 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.2, iMac Pro 10-Core, Radeon Pro Vega 64

Djordje
Mentor
stefan wrote:
I have prepared a tutorial on the ArchiCAD -> Cinema4D workflow. It's uploaded and will be online tomorrow, nov 1st.

Direct link:
http://www2.asro.kuleuven.ac.be/asro/English/HOME/SBs/tutorial/tips/ac2c4d.htm

Now wouldn't this qualify for a "Tip of the Month" ? 😉
Maybe, if enough people vote

It is going to Tips&Tricks NOW, with the shadow remaining here.
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

Anonymous
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Recent C4D rendering.
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Anonymous
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This is the export method I use to get models out of ArchiCAD and into Cinema.

1. Save as Wavefront (.obj)
2. File Settings
Construct Group Hierarchy as: (Layers - Materials)
(Model Rotated)
Set Drawing Unit to: (1.00 inches)

This will bring the model into Cinema, and if you set the Cinema units to inches it will be at the proper scale.

I prefer to use Wavefront format since it support quads (model is made of four sided polygons, insted of only 3 sided = lower polygon count = faster rendering). I also find it easier to work with the model split into Materials based on the layer they are on. This way I have more control over texturing. Sure it requires a little more work to set up the model in Cinema, but It makes it easier to control materials.
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Anonymous
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Since there can only be one attachment per post, had to reply again.
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Anonymous
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Here is a link to a company that has loy poly 3d tress, that look pretty good rendered. http://www.3d-trees.com/ They are avaiable for Cinema, as well as 3d Studio Max/Viz... also availabe I see for AutoCAD and MicroStation


Attached is an image using them, as well as the Ozone 2 (plugin for generating skies). The model was created and rendered in Cinema, for a contest over at cgarchitect.com.
adobe 8b.jpg

Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Wow. Very nice, Michael!!

Karl
One of the forum moderators   •   AC 26 USA and earlier   •   macOS Ventura 13.2, iMac Pro 10-Core, Radeon Pro Vega 64

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