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Scheduling volume of Joinery & Objects

Vincent G_
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Hello,

 

I'm trying to understand if it's possible (and somehow accurate) to schedule some objects volume. Typically joinery items (I'm using Ci Cabinets & Wardrobe 23), and locker 23. 
I need to schedule these volumes to make sure we match the min. requirements. 

Here is my schedule for the external storage, I'm using Locker 23. 

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The locker is 1700x875Dx2550H, should be ~3.8m3 brut (without counting the "frame"). I've tested every available volume but the only one working is net: 0.29 with the sum of all of them 4.35m3 

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Obviously not right. The same happens when I try to do the same for internal storage (wardrobe 23 & Ci cabinet). 

Am I missing something? Or is it just that objects can't be scheduled unless GDLed specifically? 
I could use zones or columns on a special layer as I used to do but I thought why not trying to directly schedule the object to avoid extra maintenance,

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Rajesh Patil
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Try to use "Classification & Properties" and define a New Property as shown below

Step 1Step 1Step 2Step 2Step 3Step 3Step 4Step 4

Rajesh Patil
AC 09-25 | INT | WIN10 64
Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i9, 9880H 2.30GHz, 16.0GB, NVidia GeForce GTX1650, 4.0GB, SSD Internal 500GB, Dell SSD External 250GB

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Rajesh Patil
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Try to use "Classification & Properties" and define a New Property as shown below

Step 1Step 1Step 2Step 2Step 3Step 3Step 4Step 4

Rajesh Patil
AC 09-25 | INT | WIN10 64
Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i9, 9880H 2.30GHz, 16.0GB, NVidia GeForce GTX1650, 4.0GB, SSD Internal 500GB, Dell SSD External 250GB

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@Rajesh Patil , you're a genius man! I did not even think of creating an expression to do that job. Legend! I'll try that this norning

Thanx for the appreciation 😊

Rajesh Patil
AC 09-25 | INT | WIN10 64
Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i9, 9880H 2.30GHz, 16.0GB, NVidia GeForce GTX1650, 4.0GB, SSD Internal 500GB, Dell SSD External 250GB

Vincent G_
Enthusiast

So it works perfectly! 

To be a bit more accurate, I added "*0.9) in the expression to take into account the locker frame, (-10%).

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For internal storage (robes, storage & kitchen cabinets) that 0.9 value might need to be more like 20%, I might run some testing on that but for now, I'll just add a note in the schedule saying that it's NOM. values only. 
As a trick, to schedule a storage area that is not defined by an object (partitions + doors without carcass for instance), I'd use a column on a specific "storage" layer (make sure you define a specific layer intersection & give it a "storage" dedicated material) so you can integrate that to the schedule. 

you have mentioned "As a trick, to schedule a storage area that is not defined by an object (partitions + doors without carcass for instance), I'd use a column on a specific "storage" layer (make sure you define a specific layer intersection & give it a "storage" dedicated material) so you can integrate that to the schedule. " I am unable to understand this, may be you can elaborate the same with some screenshots if get some free time. 

Rajesh Patil
AC 09-25 | INT | WIN10 64
Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i9, 9880H 2.30GHz, 16.0GB, NVidia GeForce GTX1650, 4.0GB, SSD Internal 500GB, Dell SSD External 250GB

Sure mate, so imagine you got a storage space defined not by a piece of furniture that we could schedule with your expression, but like a tiny room with shelves fixed on the partition for instance, or a cleaner room to store brooms, vacuum and stuff. 

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The method I was using to schedule storage before you gave me your neat solution was the following:
Placing columns set on a hidden "storage" layer with a specific intersection number to ensure it doesn't mess with anything. Then you create a schedule that will measure the column volume. I usually gave it dedicated material to easily identify them.

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You could probably do the same with zones or many other methods, we were using columns back then so we could define specific overrides on a work-view depending on how high they were, their bottom offset, which made it easy to maintain them in the kitchen for instance. If it was a 100mm offset + 800mm high then it was a typical kitchen cabinet, if 1500 offset and 600 high, a top cupboard. 

Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
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@Rajesh Patil 

This is a good solution. There is just one thing I do not understand: why do you create a Classification entry called "Volumn"? Or does "Volumn" mean something sensible I am not aware of?

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Laszlo Nagy, Lead Moderator, Community Admin
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Spelling Mistake 😉 being an architect, some creativity in spellings too 😁

I have created the new Classification "Volume (not Volumn) just for making things easier to understand. Nothing specific though.

Rajesh Patil
AC 09-25 | INT | WIN10 64
Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i9, 9880H 2.30GHz, 16.0GB, NVidia GeForce GTX1650, 4.0GB, SSD Internal 500GB, Dell SSD External 250GB

OK, got it.

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Laszlo Nagy, Lead Moderator, Community Admin
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I've myself used furniture rather than a new volume classification. I managed then to get different schedules by entering the right criteria. But Rajesh overall solution is great! 

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