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Anonymous
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While exploring the new options in plotmaker, specifically the Title Types, I've been unable to link the title to the drawing name without showing the .plt extension. Note: My preferance is to Hotlink to files, as opposed to the model. Also, it would be ideal to include a graphic scale that adjusts to the drawing scale automatically - but at the moment I'm without ideas.

Any advise to overcome these limitations...
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aahatimo
Newcomer
Dom wrote:
While exploring the new options in plotmaker, specifically the Title Types, I've been unable to link the title to the drawing name without showing the .plt extension. Note: My preferance is to Hotlink to files, as opposed to the model. Also, it would be ideal to include a graphic scale that adjusts to the drawing scale automatically - but at the moment I'm without ideas.
Any advise to overcome these limitations...
dom,
i have been trying out this new feature also, but w/ not much luck. i have looked both thru the booklet that came w/ 8.1 cd (usa), pages 64 - 69, and the help files. there is quite a bit of info in the booklet, but what is shown there does not appear in the basic template included w/ ac8.1 /pm3.1. there is only 1 title type there & no option for others, the booklet shows 4.
i believe you can create your own w/ auto text to achieve what you want. but why are there not different standard ones to tweak? how do you copy the basic title from the template? it crashed on me when i tried...
again a new great feature w/ poor documentation.
tim hanagan
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Anonymous
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aahatimo wrote:
i believe you can create your own w/ auto text to achieve what you want. but why are there not different standard ones to tweak?
INT has more, at the moment I have 8; are you SURE you are not checking after opening a 3.0 LBK? Do a New&Reset and check again.

how do you copy the basic title from the template? it crashed on me when i tried...
When in Tree by Subsets, the Title Types are at the bottom of the list. Click on Title types. Right click on a title that you want to edit, Copy. Right click on Title Types, Paste. You will notice the same Title added to the end of the Title list. Rename and edit as required.

HTH,

aahatimo
Newcomer
Djordje wrote:
INT has more, at the moment I have 8;
you guys are lucky! does anyone else w/ us version have this problem. maybe i need to reinstall pm3.1.
are you SURE you are not checking after opening a 3.0 LBK? Do a New&Reset and check again.
tim hanagan
aaha! design studio durango, co
27" retina 5k iMac 4ghz i7 os 10.13.6 m395x 4 mb, 32gb ram, 512 gb ssd ac 22 current
15" retina mbp 2.6ghz 1mb 16gb ac 22 current[/size]

Anonymous
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Copy and paste have worked just fine for me in order to create a custom title bar either into an imported Title Type after the original graphic had been deleted, or a new Title Type created in plotmaker.

The difficulty for me has been with the 'Insert Autotext'. Using the 'Drawing Name' option, my plotmakers files are titled with the file extension included; eg. Floor Plan.pmk.

If I choose to link the drawings to quickviews from the model directly, the file extension will no longer appear - however, it is my preference to link directly to plotmaker files as I have found the update process too so when linking directly to the model and much quicker to just publish the specific drawings from ArchiCAD that I wish to update.

I have also noticed the there are commands within the <> brackets of text boxes that Plotmaker will interperet and execute. Are there any strings that I can add that will delete the file extension off the drawing name leaving me with the desired title?

Anonymous
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When in Tree by Subsets, the Title Types are at the bottom of the list. Click on Title types. Right click on a title that you want to edit, Copy. Right click on Title Types, Paste. You will notice the same Title added to the end of the Title list. Rename and edit as required.

Holding The Ctrl key while dragging the Title Type will also produce a copy

aahatimo
Newcomer
Dom wrote:

The difficulty for me has been with the 'Insert Autotext'. Using the 'Drawing Name' option, my plotmakers files are titled with the file extension included; eg. Floor Plan.pmk.
If I choose to link the drawings to quickviews from the model directly, the file extension will no longer appear -

i guess since the drawing name is "*.pmk", pm will name it that. linked drawings are named in ac8 navigator. does the same thing happen w/ imported images? maybe gs is sending a message linked drawings are now the preference. or a break down in the new pm titling system. i hope not, it is a great new feature!
tim hanagan
aaha! design studio durango, co
27" retina 5k iMac 4ghz i7 os 10.13.6 m395x 4 mb, 32gb ram, 512 gb ssd ac 22 current
15" retina mbp 2.6ghz 1mb 16gb ac 22 current[/size]

Anonymous
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In AC8.1 and PM3.1 the <DRAWINGNAME> autotext works correctly if you link directly to the PLN (or PLP) but not if the drawing is linked to a file. (I must admit that I feel foolish for not catching this sooner.) This means that for the time being the only way to auto-title drawings acceptably is to bring them in from or through ArchiCAD. DWGs imported directly into PlotMaker will suffer from the same problem.

This hasn't really been an issue for me (yet) since I (still) do all my titling in ArchiCAD and we have started to import all our drawings from the PLP* file. I see the drawing title feature in PlotMaker (for now at least) to be most potentially useful in schematic and design development phases where it will help to give the drawings a more polished look very quickly without much setup or coordination.


*We are starting to use teamwork on ALL our projects now. It works so quickly in 8.1 that there seems to be no real

Anonymous
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I've been working with the title types and my problem with them (besides the file extension) is that in details and sections the detail number is part of the <Drawing Name> autotext. So I end up with an autonumber in the bubble, but another number in the drawing name. I would have thought that the logical approach is to use either the autonumber OR the detail number in the bubble, and the detail name (not number) as the name. Yet another "almost cool" feature.

Anonymous
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Jay wrote:
I've been working with the title types and my problem with them (besides the file extension) is that in details and sections the detail number is part of the <Drawing Name> autotext.
I am a moron. It just occured to me that the names in the view sets are what it's displaying. Nevermind!

Anonymous
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Re: Title Type Drawing Names in 3.1:
So, I have spent a few hours reading the help menus, trying to figure out how to get the file extension out of the drawing name autotext. Even the little box at the bottom of the placed drawing reads, "FOUNDATION PLAN.pmk". I see I'm not the only one struggling with this. I thought that a good solution would be to use the Layer Combination from the ArchiCAD drawing as the autotext string, and I see there's an option reading, "Set as Autotext Reference" on the drawing context menu, but I can't figure out what that does, or how to use the Layer Combination as an autotext reference.

Djordje
Advisor
Lee wrote:
So, I have spent a few hours reading the help menus, trying to figure out how to get the file extension out of the drawing name autotext.
You can't. Link directly to the view from the PLN. Make sure that all is in place - but, as you already published the PMKs, it probably is.

Use the same set of views you used for publishing PMKs.

With 8.1 you do not need the PMKs any more. Renderings also come across quite OK (3D view, Photorendering window as the source).
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

aahatimo
Newcomer
Djordje wrote:
You can't. Link directly to the view from the PLN. Make sure that all is in place - but, as you already published the PMKs, it probably is.
Use the same set of views you used for publishing PMKs.
With 8.1 you do not need the PMKs any more. Renderings also come across quite OK (3D view, Photorendering window as the source).
djordie,
great news about images coming into pm3.1 correctly now. no more black rectangles!
on the other hand,i imagine some users prefer not to be forced to change thier pmk ways. i, will continue to be a "linker". but then i am a new ac user, basicly started w/ ac8.
for the "pmkers", would it be possible for those wanting to use pmk format to link the pmk to the model, then give a name in ac8.1 navigator?
tim hanagan
aaha! design studio durango, co
27" retina 5k iMac 4ghz i7 os 10.13.6 m395x 4 mb, 32gb ram, 512 gb ssd ac 22 current
15" retina mbp 2.6ghz 1mb 16gb ac 22 current[/size]

Djordje
Advisor
aahatimo wrote:
on the other hand,i imagine some users prefer not to be forced to change thier pmk ways.
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for the "pmkers", would it be possible for those wanting to use pmk format to link the pmk to the model, then give a name in ac8.1 navigator?
As I said before, my crystal ball is in the workshop ...

It should be possible, as the extension is shown for ANY file that is linked - DWG, XLS, DOC, whatever. It should NOT be so.

I was an avid PMKer, but I use the PMKs only for the projects that are still in 7 (were started there, and they are going to be finished there). This week I started revising a 8.0 project, and am using 3.1 LBK - cannot get enough of the Print stup button!

Duh ... some people have a life ...
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

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