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Tom Krowka
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HAve generated a door schedule; doors show up with the surface material. How can I get them to show up only in black and white outlines? The colored doors are custom door leafs created with those colors since one can't change materials in the door dialogue box with custom doors. The criteria is 3D front view. Have also tried view from reveal side and view from opening side but they also come in with colors. The other doors have white paint as their material which explains why they look white.

So once again....how can I get them to show up in outline with no colors? If I place the schedule and print it I'm pretty sure the door will show up as a black square. Thanks Tom
Tom Krowka Architect

Windows 10, AC Version 25

Thomas@wkarchwk.com

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Barry Kelly
Moderator
You need to use a Graphic Override that includes the rule to make "all fill backgrounds - transparent".
That rule should exist as default (I think) but if it doesn't then just create a new rule and set the fill background pen to transparent.

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Tom Krowka
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Does not seem to work. Might it be because the doors with color are custom leafs? See pic below.
Thanks Tom
Tom Krowka Architect

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Barry Kelly
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Is that rule used in the Grapic Override that is saved with the view for the schedule?
If not then every time you activate that schedule view, you are turning the rule off.

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Tom Krowka
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yes, its saved in the view.
Tom Krowka Architect

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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Odd.
The only difference I can see is my GO is not overriding the foreground fill or the surface - but that shouldn't be the problem.

I did notice you have to close and re-open the schedule or force a 'Build and Regenerate' in the schedule to see the change if the schedule is still open in the tab.

Barry.

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Tom Krowka
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Did that too. Have sent n email to support. Maybe it’s a bug.
Am assuming it works for you? It happens on any door leaf with any surface material.
Tom Krowka Architect

Windows 10, AC Version 25

Thomas@wkarchwk.com

www.walshkrowka.com

Barry Kelly
Moderator
Tom wrote:
Am assuming it works for you? It happens on any door leaf with any surface material.
Yes, all seems to be working fine for me.
I have even tried with a custom door leaf in versions 20 and 22.


I notice your door frames seem to be transparent - it is just the door leafs not behaving?
The only thing is I don't use the default GS door objects.
Just tried a default template and it works there too.

But I did notice the schedule GO also had a "Cover fills - transparent" rule.
Did the slabs you created the doors from have a cover fill?


Barry.

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Barry Kelly
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Barry wrote:
But I did notice the schedule GO also had a "Cover fills - transparent" rule.
Did the slabs you created the doors from have a cover fill?
I just quickly tested that by removing the rule and it didn't make any difference - it all still worked OK.

Barry.

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Tom Krowka
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Well, it seemed logical. Still not working for me. See the pic below. When I created the custom leaf I did use generic exterior material, override surface with the the material needed. I also checked the slab with which I made the door....I did not have a cover fill checked.

These are typical GS door objects that I'm using.

Any other ideas? Haven't heard anything back from GS support yet. Thanks Tom
Tom Krowka Architect

Windows 10, AC Version 25

Thomas@wkarchwk.com

www.walshkrowka.com

Barry Kelly
Moderator
Tom wrote:
Any other ideas? Haven't heard anything back from GS support yet. Thanks Tom
I am not sure what to try next.
I have tried it with a default GS 'door 22' and created a custom door leaf with an override surface, with and with out a cover fill.
And it worked fine for me.

Just as a final check, make sure your schedules are all closed.
In the plan switch to the GO with the transparent background fills.
Now open the door schedule from the Project Map and not the View Map, so you can be sure you are not changing the GO.

Barry.

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Daniel Kovacs
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hello,

If the problem is still not solved, I could take a look at your file, if you send it to me in a PLA through a Private Message.

Regards,
Daniel Alexander Kovacs

Professional Services Consultant

GRAPHISOFT



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Tom Krowka
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GS tech support reviewed the file and sent me a new graphic override that works. I compared the one they sent with the setting that I had, and couldn't see any difference. I replied and asked wht the difference is/was, but no response.
Am using the new one but am curious why the original didn't work. Tom
Tom Krowka Architect

Windows 10, AC Version 25

Thomas@wkarchwk.com

www.walshkrowka.com

Daniel Kovacs
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Please post it if you get any feedback. I am curious now!
Daniel Alexander Kovacs

Professional Services Consultant

GRAPHISOFT



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Tom Krowka
Booster
no response. I can do a PLA if you want to check it out for yourself. Send me an address to send it to.
Tom
Tom Krowka Architect

Windows 10, AC Version 25

Thomas@wkarchwk.com

www.walshkrowka.com

Daniel Kovacs
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Hello,

I took a look at Tom's file. It seems to be working fine for me with the settings shown in the pictures.

In the 2 GO settings I compared one was set up with a rule that only affected things with blue surfaces and one that had the same settings as in the pictures above.

The latter obviously worked fine, but with the former I noticed, that when I changed the criteria of the rule (to affect every element), the View didn't update automatically, so it could have even seemed like it wasn't working. Using Rebuild & Regenerate (ctrl+shift+alt+R) solved this.

Maybe that is what was causing the confusion?

Regards,
Daniel Alexander Kovacs

Professional Services Consultant

GRAPHISOFT



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Tom Krowka
Booster
Maybe. Have used the GO that tech support sent me and it worked fine without R & R. Will have to go back and check with other GO to see if it works with R & R. Although I'm pretty sure I tried that as I know schedules have to be regen when they are changed.
Thanks Tom
Tom Krowka Architect

Windows 10, AC Version 25

Thomas@wkarchwk.com

www.walshkrowka.com

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