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views blurriness w/ AC19

Anonymous
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Hello everyone,

Is any one else having problem saving a view image w/ AC19?
the view on screen looks fine but whenever placing on layout or saving as jpeg it look really bad.
the pics below shows both AC 17 & AC19 of the same file when save as jpeg or place on layout.





AC17&19 |Win10_64bit|
HP ENVY Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500U 2.40 GHz Processor
16GB RAM

19.jpg
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Anonymous
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AC17

Anonymous
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Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
It seems to me that your 3D Viewpoint in AC19 may not be set to the best settings. Is it set to OpenGL? On the AC17 screenshot I can see it is on OpenGL because only the OpenGL Engine can display textures, the Internal Engine can't. So I would check the settings in the 3D Viewpoint.
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Laszlo Nagy, Lead Moderator, Community Admin
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Anonymous
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Hi Laszlo,
AC 19 is set to OpenGL. the setting are identical to AC17.
view setting.jpg

Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
I tested this and I get the same result: in AC17 when I save the 3D Viewpoint as JPG (Color - Quality: 90), the resulting image is fine, the slanted lines are nice and show no jaggedness, they look like they do in the 3D Viewpoint.
However, when I do the exact same thing in AC19 with the same settings, lines in the resulting JPG will become jagged, as if antialiasing was not working. What is even interesting is that right after ARCHICAD finishes saving the JPG, the 3D Viewpoint becomes just as jagged as the resulting JPG. However, if I zoom in and out a bit the correct antialiasing is restored.

Out of curiousity I tried the same thing in AC18 and I found that it was working fine in AC18 as well.

So there is something definitely going on here which was working in previous versions and not working in AC19. This was tested in build 5005, which is currently the latest build.

I will forward this to GRAPHISOFT for investigation.
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Laszlo Nagy, Lead Moderator, Community Admin
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AMD Ryzen 1700X CPU, 48 GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
2x28" (2560x1440), WIN10 PRO ENG, AC20-AC25
Loving Archicad since 1995

Anonymous
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Thanks Laszlo,
That's the exact issue I'm experiencing. But it only happens w/ PC computer. It's fine when tested out w/ Mac.

Anonymous
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I believe the OpenGL engine was changed in AC19 as part of the graphics speed improvements (much of the work is now done on the graphics card not the cpu)
Scott

Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin
Yes, the OpenGL Engine was undated, but it was updated on both the Windows and Mac version. Still, if this works on Mac and doesn't work on Windows, it must be something Windows-specific or specific to the Windows version that is causing it.
Anyway, the developers will surely track it down and solve it.
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Laszlo Nagy, Lead Moderator, Community Admin
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AMD Ryzen 1700X CPU, 48 GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
2x28" (2560x1440), WIN10 PRO ENG, AC20-AC25
Loving Archicad since 1995

Anonymous
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Another thought is that the Mac may be producing a higher resolution image, the typical Windows workstations in the office only have a resolution of 1920x1080 but my MacBook has a screen resolution of 2560x1600 or an iMac with 5120x2880.
Also the Quartz display engine of MacOS is effectively display postscript, so vectors (line work) should be sharp.
Scott

Anonymous
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Just tested out the Bimx model export today, and it yielding the same jagged edge in the model. Is there any quick way that I can save from AC19 back to AC17 so that I can continue using these tools.

Barry Kelly
Moderator
The only way to save back is in 19 you "Save As" a version 18 PLN and then open that in 18 and "Save As" a version 17 PLN.

Barry.

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As a quicker workaround, have you tried setting up a 'dressed down' cinerender scene? Nothing fancy, just the most basic settings with a 'general light' lamp set up with infinite distance/strength to light up the interior views. You should be able to get a render in under a minute for these kind of views.

Or save them as 3D documents with colour representation settings.

Or take the saved JPEG to a photo editor, apply some filters and overlay a sketch render to go for a handdrawn presentation look.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
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Also see this older topic about the same issue: http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=247455&highlight=#247455

There are some settings I posted there for a quick render and it appears there is a setting in work environment advanced redraw that might help.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-24 NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5

Anonymous
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Thank Erwin,

The setting mention in that post about the 2D Drawing Antialiasing being switched off by default. Activating it will solve the problem.

"In ARCHICAD 19, the 2D Drawing Antialiasing is switched off by default. You need to activate it to get nicer result here: Options > Work Environment > Advanced Redraw Options." Katalin Borszeki: Implementation Specialist
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