Drawing Title Type in AC10

[Anonymous]

How do I go about making a new drawing Title Type. in AC9 PM you had the option within the tree to make a new title type using 2d drawing and autotext. Very simple. But now I only have the options of pre made title types with no option of making my own. I have looked in the help index and all they say is the pre made title types are GDL parts and don't mention anything about making a custom one. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Jim

[Scott Bulmer]

I'm beginning to sense that you guys have crossed over to the dark side.

[James Murray]

Link wrote:
Phew - good luck with all THAT!

It's automatic!

My wrists hurt just thinking about typing that up.

[Haneef Tayob]

Anyone have luck with solving this issue.
All custom titles I've created thusfar end up distorted and they sit inside the drawing frame, not below it.

If it's going to be difficult, then maybe GS must issue a whole lot of customisable titles, with each text block height and styel editable, from which one will hopefully find a suitable one.

I basically need to know how to create a title as per attached image. As I mentioned, the result of my attempt are distorted titles.

[Scott Bulmer]

Haneef,
Please look at the ArchiWiki page http://www.archicadwiki.com/TechNotes/Creating_Title_Types

That may explain what you need.

[Anonymous]

To correct distorted titles you can change title to "none", then change it back to desired title. This should reset the scale properly.

As for placement, apart from dragging it, I dunno.

[James Murray]

s2art wrote:
As for placement, apart from dragging it, I dunno.

You need something in the code. The default origin is the lower left corner of the frame. If you put in, e.g.,

ADD2 0, -0.5"

...at the top of the 2D script, the title would default to 1/2" below that corner. From there, you could still drag it wherever.

[Link]

James said:

The default origin is the lower left corner of the frame...

Is it just me or would it be better to have the anchor point for a title at the top left corner? Seems most users want to anchor the top left of the title to the bottom left of the drawing. But not everyone, so why aren't hotspots in titles available as insertion points for titles. Then we'd go a long way to replicating the old AC9 title anchor points. People could anchor by the center or the right. Is this the same reason that nothing appears in the 2D Symbol window of the part?

While I am at it James, is there a way of anchoring the title so that if the drawing moves, the title doesn't? I know more than a few of my clients would like this. Then they could form a kind of list on their sheets without worrying that the list won't jump all over the joint.

[Edit: maybe not the best example because of new drawing lists. How about those people who just like their titles to appear in the same place on every layout, like at the very bottom center of their layouts? Etc.]

Cheers,
Link.

[James Murray]

Link wrote:
But not everyone, so why aren't hotspots in titles available as insertion points for titles. Then we'd go a long way to replicating the old AC9 title anchor points. People could anchor by the center or the right.

Again, it's script: You can do anything. But you have to use the script to do it. No reason you couldn't say, go up by the height of the frame, go up by whatever you need to get clearance for the title itself, then draw it. But it's code. The subtype itself seems a little underpowered, as we've noted.

Link wrote:
Is this the same reason that nothing appears in the 2D Symbol window of the part?

The empty symbol just means everything is drawn by the code. They've made a clean break with the drawn titles of 9. When a 9 title is converted, it becomes drag and drop type script.

Out of curiosity I tried to make a symbol-only title with no 2D script. Not happy. Every time I move it, it vanishes. Nice.

...hm, out of more curiosity, I tried FRAGMENT2 to show the symbol and that works. So in theory, you could draw a title in the symbol window, with autotexts, put FRAGMENT2 1,1 in the script, and it would work, as long as you didn't care at all about stretchiness or fitting the frame etc. (Is that what the 9 titles are like?)

Useful?

is there a way of anchoring the title so that if the drawing moves, the title doesn't?...How about those people who just like their titles to appear in the same place on every layout, like at the very bottom center of their layouts? Etc.

I don't think so, and I can't see a workaround. The title's origin is bound to the frame. Move the drawing, move the title's origin. I don't see a way to compensate for moving the drawing in the script/subtype.

As for the same place, that's what I want in my plans so I'm continuing to use my old, model-space title object for them. It's multistory so I use one object for all the plans, and the titles are all aligned. I couldn't give that up. 'Real' titles for everything else.

[Link]

Good Lord!!

ArchiCAD 10 tiltes really are in a sorry state. Thanks for confirming and trying all those tests.

Think I'm gonna find something else fun to play with. Hmmmmm, maybe complex profiles or direct drawing references....

Cheers,
Link.

[LiHigh]

It's definitely a bug!

Try this: Delete the Transformation as Shown and change the X-coordinate of textblock to AC_DrawingRect [3]/2 and Y-cord to 0. It will move the Title to bottom-center of the Drawing Frame. for other position, try it yourself!

Plaese note that The Drawing frame is equivalent to:

RECT2   AC_DrawingRect [1], AC_DrawingRect [2], AC_DrawingRect [3], AC_DrawingRect [4]

BTW, you can activate the grey-out parameters by turning OFF "AC_ConvertedTitle".