You can also check the Section or Elevation settings, where you can override the cut and non-cut elements appearance.
Thus you can assign a consistent cut contour line pen (1) with a thicker weight, and a fine line for everything else (2).
And if you feel especially tricky, you can even spice it up by turning on the depth separation and assign an extra visual layer on top this (3).
Just by playing around in the Section / Elevation tool settings.
Although, keep in mind that the Graphic Overrides and MVO settings will always overpower these.
Hope it can help. 🙂
Cheers!
Hi all and thanks for the feedbacks.
The problem doesn't actually lie in the pen sets. I generally use two thickness: 0,1 For the lines and the hatches, 0,2 for the Sections and they are actually right displayed in the screenshots above. Moreover, the settings in the attached - as @Benedek Gaszpor pointed out - are also good and the behavior right.
The real issue is the merging of two elements, such as the wall and the ceiling. The section line should ignore the thickness where the joint is and keep on running just on the contour, as also all the elements are being treated with SO. This is correctly shown in the "Hairline" mode.
But when the thickness is turned on, the thick line keeps on running through the element.
Maybe is something related with the configuration of material/layer priorities?
In order to achieve the complex profile connection, for instance, the elements should lay on the same priority level but with different material priority. This is anyway not really possibile in the building I'm drawing, since the complexity of the operations and the phasing of the construction doesn't help: the building is under renovation and the renovation filter are unfortunately anything but enough.
And indeed if the walls lays on the same layer and is made with the same material, the section works again fine. But why should by design the section not following the general drawing rules also with two different materials?
Hi @dfks ,
Thanks for the clarification.
Now this might not be the source of your issue, but similar problems can be caused when the elements are on separate layers and the layers connection class is different.
If the connection class is different between two layers, the elements will not "intersect" with each other among the two layers.
If the layer connection class is set to "0", it will not even intersect among the elements on the same layer.
This can be powerful sometimes, since you can lighten up the computer's calculations load when generating a view, but frustrating as well, when random lines appear, where there should be none.
The other thing that you have mentions already is the renovation status of the separate elements and their visibility settings on the renovations panel.
But if I gather it correctly from your comment, you have already gone through that...
If you are using AC26+ you might try to play around with the Design Options as well, if the renovations feature is already depleted... Although if you are already far along the project that might be a huge undertaking...
Maybe @Barry Kelly, has some better ideas and more insight.
Cheers!
The line thickness is centred on the hair line and the ends are always round and extend beyond the node by half of the thickness.
In hairline you don't see this.
But with true line weight you do.
These are exactly the same lines as the hairline ones above, just with thickness turned on.
The thicker the line, the worse it looks.
And the more you zoom in, the more you notice it.
A line drawn first will be under a line drawn second, but depending on the thickness may or may not hide the line below.
The thicker line will always be seen and will not be cut off.
You can use display order to bring forward send back, but the thick line will always be seen.
It gets more complicated when you start using white lines (they won't print) or fills with or without perimeter lines.
Again the same lines as above with the fill brought forward.
Your composites use building materials which use fills, so will end up looking like this.
Generally when you are printing with true line weight, a thick pen representing the building elements will probably be only 0.5mm thick?
No matter what scale the drawing is.
At least in my experience.
Apart from page border lines and title block or note borders, they may be a little thicker.
Your printed plans should look OK unless you are using very thick pens.
Remember on screen you can zoom right in and that is when it looks bad.
I am not sure if this helps or not.
Barry.
Hello @dfks ,
Not necessarily.
When you are using the layers, just keep in mind, that if you wish the elements to intersect, (and the computer to calculate with it,) that those layers are on the same connection class number.
Of course, the building material issue can still be relevant then, since the fills will only merge visually if the building materials are the same, and the stronger material will cut the weaker one (unless you do some extra wizardry with some solid elmement operations...).
Check the active layer combination assigned to your section view.
The saved layer combinations also store the layers connection class, not just the visibility and locked status.
Another thing that just popped into my mind... although it might be way off, and you are probably already familiar with it, bust just in case:
It is best practice to assign saved view settings to all of your views.
Assigning a defined Layer combination, Pen set, MVO, Graphic override, Renovation filter.
And do not keep stuff as "Custom". (As you see on the attached image.)
It is bad practice; Can mess up your workflow, and in some cases can even result in some bugs or mishaps that takes a lot of time to figure out and fix.
Hope this helps 🙂
Cheers!
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