2009-02-12 10:45 PM
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Hence wrote:Yes it's true; all those third-party developers have every right to charge you for their hard work and ingenuity. Or at least as much right as third-party developers for other software such as Chaosgroup (Vray), Cebas (Finalrender) NextLimit (Realflow/Maxwell) do to 3ds Max users, for example. The subtle difference between our case and those users and that software (3ds Max - as an example) is that the developers of those software, have provided them (and continue to provide them) with native means of accomplishing what those third party plug-ins can do with almost as much versatility. For example Autodesk has spent a lot developing Mental Ray as a native renderer for 3ds MAX ( and Maya, and Revit and the rest of them) to the degree that it not only competes on almost equal footing with Vray, Final Render, Maxwell and the rest of the third party renderers, but also makes the question of whether or not to buy a third-party renderer a one of personal taste and convenience rather than one of, the necessity arising from an absence in the host software. The same can be argued for their Reactor system, which facilitates fluid dynamic simulations natively ala NextLimit's Realflow, and Cloth simulations ala Simcloth and other third-party cloth simulators.
I just want to know how other users feel about charging for additional content for ArchiCAD. I recently looked up ArchiGlazing as a solution for creating custom windows. It cost $209 US per copy. I know that is not a lot for most firms, but it can be a lot for start up firms or small offices with limited budgets, especially given the cost of ArchiCAD alone.
So let me know what you think. Is it fair to charge for additional content (bathroom fixtures, furniture ect..) and applications that should be part of the program?
PS
I know there is a free GDL library, but there are slim pickens in there.
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2009-02-13 03:45 PM
Matthew wrote:.....yeah but the overall concept isn't entirely alien to Graphisoft neither. After all, isn't this exactly how the MEP module was born? It used to be called Ductworks way back in version 9 when it was developed by an independent third-party who subsequently folded or were bought out by GS.
Two reasons there is (and always has been) so much third party development around Autodesk products:
1. The large user base (obviously)
2. Autodesk buys the stuff they like/want/need.
A lot of development occurs in the hope of being bought by Autodesk. Quite a few millionaires have been made this way.
Unfortunately I don't anticipate much of this from Graphisoft nor Nemetschek. It seems a particularly american way of business (and perhaps english and dutch) but doesn't strike me as a german nor hungarian approach.