!Restored: ¿News about AC 12?

[Anonymous]

Hi all!


¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?


I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...


Thanks a lot and regards.



P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."

[TomWaltz]

David wrote:
With the exception of the AC8.0 fiasco (similar to the AutoCAD 13 release), every new release of AC has been anything but a letdown.

I'd have to disagree. Archicad 10 was the only release that I've been reasonably happy with. It had a big combination of new features and old problems fixed (or at least greatly improved).

Judging by the improvements Archicad 8.1 had over 8.0, I'd say Archicad 9 was little more than Archicad 8.2 and Archicad 11 was almost like Archicad 10.1.

[Anonymous]

Archicad 9 was for me the biggest disappointment.
Archicad 11 was wha 10 should have been

Best release so far 8+8.1

Lets hope 12 will be somewhere close

[David Larrew]

From my recollection, the most welcomed changes/improvements for each release were...

6.0 - 6.5 : Added better Layout functionality to PlotMaker.
6.5 - 7.0 : Publisher (enough said).
7.0 - 8.0 : Linked Details. Interactive Schedules. Docking Palettes.
8.0 - 8.1 : Fixed all of the major bugs from 8.0.
8.1 - 9.0 : PlotMaker embedded in ArchiCAD. File compression. Navigator.
9.0 - 10.0 : Improved Navigator. "Drawing" Tool. SEO. Improved Composite control. Complex Profiles.
10.0 - 11.0 : Virtual Trace. Worksheets. Sections/Elevations separated.
11.0 - 12.0 : ...

My memory might be a little fuzzy on all of the details for each release and I'm sure there are other improvements that others remember for each release... But my point is GS has always done a good job of improving or adding to AC whether it is GUI, functionality, or unseen to the user.

Everyone has a favorite release that improved their workflow or made their life much easier from that release.

[Anonymous]

good conclusion, but AFAIK 9.0 introduced the layout book (instead of individual .LAY files for each sheet) and the ability to link into views in ArchiCAD instead of mandatory .PMK files. PlotMaker integration came with 10. And sometimes "small" features made a concept usable in real life, like incorporating the Dimension options into the stored views...

[David Larrew]

Thanks for the clarification, Ferenc. I guess my mind is catching-up with my age.

[Anonymous]

NO talking about age to me

[Anonymous]

All the speculation about new features....

More than any other release this one is the most important for the future of ArchiCAD. And so it will be from now on, now that there is a cashed up competitor with a (comparatively) youthful, feature rich software and large market share.

Also, after v12 the first round of subscription renewals are due (since GS moved to that revenue model with yearly upgrades). Will the investment have been worthwhile? Will companies feel that there is value in continuing?

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out....!

[Dwight]

This release being key to Archicad's future?
Ha!
You are way too late.
The key release was 8, and it was botched because they were in a rush.
Quarterly earnings projections, no doubt.
That is where Archicad "lost."

Four versions ago, Archicad was unique and powerful. Not now. It has moved past evaluating competitive features and on to competing communities. Momentum lost. Even if 12 is fantastic, the dullards will all get the louder one because they don't have the experience with BIM to properly evaluate, chosing the safe route. Remember that it is no longer the early adopter but the doasthemassesdo who is buying now.

It is like the Jasper, Alberta train crash. The senior engineer let the junior engineer climb to the top of the pass. The speed limit at the top of the pass was 6 mph. Go 6.1 mph at that point and the 5000 metre train doesn't have the braking power. Eventually: Boom.

[Anonymous]

David wrote:
From my recollection, the most welcomed changes/improvements for each release were...

6.0 - 6.5 : Added better Layout functionality to PlotMaker.
6.5 - 7.0 : Publisher (enough said).
7.0 - 8.0 : Linked Details. Interactive Schedules. Docking Palettes.
8.0 - 8.1 : Fixed all of the major bugs from 8.0.
8.1 - 9.0 : PlotMaker embedded in ArchiCAD. File compression. Navigator.
9.0 - 10.0 : Improved Navigator. "Drawing" Tool. SEO. Improved Composite control. Complex Profiles.
10.0 - 11.0 : Virtual Trace. Worksheets. Sections/Elevations separated.
11.0 - 12.0 : ...

My memory might be a little fuzzy on all of the details for each release and I'm sure there are other improvements that others remember for each release... But my point is GS has always done a good job of improving or adding to AC whether it is GUI, functionality, or unseen to the user.

Everyone has a favorite release that improved their workflow or made their life much easier from that release.

8.0 - using a mouse as a pan and zooming tool, OpenGL in 3D (in actual3D window), those two changes changed a lot. Personally 8.0 was one of the most significant version. Just because of those two changes.
9.0 - Unified UI. No more floating paletes. Also big improvements.
SEO was introduced much earlier. It was definitely in 8.0, but I think it was introduced in 7.0.
11 - complex profiles finally working on arc walls, Multi floor hotlinks

[Chazz]

David wrote:
6.0 - 6.5 : Added better Layout functionality to PlotMaker.

You want to talk about biggies?

• 4.0 -> 4.5 brought the Section Tool. (and in early builds you could use the wall tool inside sections!)
  4.5 -> 5.0 Teamwork and the porting to Windows, which was the beginning of the end.

Actually I welcomed the port to Windows at the time because back then, all the ArchiCAD users knew each other by first name (there were only a handfull on the California central coast at that time). We needed to grow the base and get fresh blood. However, after that GS stopped attending Macworld in San Francisco and stopped supporting all of the cool features specific to the Mac, something that continues to this day.