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[Anonymous]

I saw some documents to compare between Revit and AC.
I study Revit from own website.
It is just copy from AC!!

I used to work with AC (and very satisfied, and like many friends from AC-forum).
As AC-user I hope, AC must be better than Revit for Architects.

I have not used Revit, but just seen from Website.
The web-site from Revit is so nice, that I must believe, Revit should be better than AC.

I like to know your opinions and also opinions from GS.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Why dont you download it for yourself. and try it out.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=7142518

I found some parts better than archicad and some parts not so good.

[Scott Davis]

samsung wrote:
It is just copy from AC!!

Similar in some ways, maybe. But a copy? Not even close.

[Anonymous]

Scott wrote:

Similar in some ways, maybe. But a copy? Not even close.

Did you use AC?
Than you can say your opinion between two programms.

[Chadwick]

I have used both and to say that one is a copy of another is rediculous. Thats like saying a Honda is a copy of a Chevy because they are both cars. The two programs have distinct features and even ways about how they handle the building information. Revit has live connections for drawings whereas ArchiCAD requires you to update them. ArchiCAD will now have plotmaker integrated whereas Revit has always had its sheet layout integrated. I could go on and on - there is no way to understand the inner workings of a program from just reading features on a website or asking someone else's opinion.

Do what I did: download the demo, order an instructional book from Paul Aubin and jump in. Thats the only way you'll know the differences (and similarities)

[Anonymous]

So many time I dont want to invest.
I wanted just to know, what Revit can do, because Revit is very often compared to AC.

[Anonymous]

Try this:

http://www.dgcad.com/

There are some videos (free) so you can check some features.

(Beware they are all +100MB files)

[__archiben]

Scott wrote:
Similar in some ways, maybe. But a copy? Not even close.

scott - having read through both the revit 9 and the archicad 10 new features guide it seems quite apparent that both have concentrated this release on consolidating many of each others smaller, simple or easy to implement features. that's not to say each haven't got their own 'look-ma-no-hands' selling point, or that there is any blatant copying happening, but i do understand what samsung is saying . . .

that being said, it's also quite apparent that the engines that run both applications are markedly different. as an archicad user i have a gut feeling that the revit engine is far superior. whilst the revit feature set may be lacking in some areas at present (my opinion), and the '9' release didn't really have the flash-bang that previous releases have had, i believe that it will be able to accommodate much more future development than archicad's underlying technologies currently can.

~/archiben

[Anonymous]

~/archiben wrote:
that being said, it's also quite apparent that the engines that run both applications are markedly different. as an archicad user i have a gut feeling that the revit engine is far superior. whilst the revit feature set may be lacking in some areas at present (my opinion), and the '9' release didn't really have the flash-bang that previous releases have had, i believe that it will be able to accommodate much more future development than archicad's underlying technologies currently can.

~/archiben

This is exactly how i feel. After some use of the revit demo, im convinced autodesk is on the right track. The core engine that archicad is built on is old, and is somewhat frustrating to use during conceptual phases of a project where the design changes constantly. the current v9 features and new features for 10 are great, but if revit had them it may be difficult to justify using AC at all. I understand that changing the foundation of the software is no small task, but they have been at this for 20+ years. hopefully this is under development now.

That being said i still have no compelling reason to switch. I think Archicad 10 will be a good release and relieve some project management anguish in our office. if money were no object and i was a little more insane, i would build the model in revit then IFC to AC for documents, because i think somewhere between the two is the BIM nirvana im looking for.

[Anonymous]

avcamara wrote:
Try this:

http://www.dgcad.com/

There are some videos (free) so you can check some features.

(Beware they are all +100MB files)

I have seen already, thanks.
I don't want to test very deep ( I am not computer-expert, and I will not).
I want to discuss as architect.
I know AC very well. His method of thinking and something like that or philosophy.
The best way to learn AC very easy is to try to be a good organised architect.
The best way to learn Autodesk is to try to be a good computer-expert or engineer.

How about with Revit?