What is the "Reveal Side" of a door?

[Steve Jepson]

In ArchiCADspeak, what is the Reveal Side of a door? I assume that it is the side opposite the Hinge Side.
Is that correct?

[Barry Kelly]

No, it is the side of the wall you first click when placing the door - the side with the 'sun' icon.
The reveal depth is measured from this side and adjusting that is really the only way to tell which is the reveal side for an already placed door/window.

Barry.

[Steve Jepson]

The problem is in understanding and coordinating how "Reveal" relates to the views and terms you might include in an Interactive Schedule.
How do we know which side we are looking at by the Field names - so we don't need to go back and forth to different views to make sure, based on hardware or something. I initially use different Handles for inside and outside for making sure the Field I am using in the Interactive Schedule shows what I want. Then I change the Handles and rename the title in the schedule to View of Hinge Side.

Whatever Reveal means relative to the placement sun symbol is not a very useful definition or reference in relation to what the end user of the Interactive Schedule needs to know.

The terms for a modeling frame of reference should be the same as the useful frame of reference terms for the Interactive Schedules which (should be) Hinge Side, Side Opposite Hinge Side, Inside, Outside.

The Carpenter/Chippy or person at the lumber yard using the Interactive Schedule knows nothing about what is meant by the ArchiCAD Reveal Side. The Hinge Side is also relative to the door hand/orientation.

We don't need a little Sun Symbol. A Hinge Side symbol would be more useful to everyone.

I would think that the inventors of the Sun Symbol understand how important it is to designate the Hinge Side so I am thinking that there must be some rational relationship to Hinge Side and Reveal. Perhaps not.

This is one more good reason why Hinges should be included in all the ArchiCAD door objects as an optional display, and also the ability to show the number of hinges, type, style, materials...

It would be nice to extract everything you need to specify about a door into an Interactive Schedule based on standard ArchiCAD door objects. Same goes for Windows.

[Barry Kelly · Accepted solution]

You don't have to use the reveal side in the schedules if you don't want.
I use the "View from opening side" which is the hinged side and that seems to work quite well.

The only thing I am not really happy with is the plan view.

Barry.

[Steve Jepson]

I like that. Thanks