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railings - are they worth it?

Patrick M
Advisor

are the railings ever going to develop to be a solution instead of a problem?

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Lingwisyer
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Use a Handrail instead of a Toprail then use the Connect Handrails end setting to wrap it back? Though given your reference line starts to slope again at the bottom, it might not work...

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Barry Kelly
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This is done with a top rail, but the curved reference line at the bottom is all at the same level of the bottom tread.

 

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Looks like I changed the post at the bottom of the flight to the same size as the balusters.

 

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I did this back in version 22 and have never done it since.

 

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doesn't work with any rail type

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the issue is curves that also need to be sloping the connections never work. you end up adding flat sections before the curving slope, and usually end up with goose necks; like the goose neck at your landing. What I needed was (based on your example image) for the railing to hit the last tread, and as it followed the tread nosing around, for the rail hight to continue consistent to ground level; so that at it's lowest it is 36" above the floor, 36"+riser at the nosing, and 36" above each nosing above that.

Believe me, I know how to make the railing look clean. But it is a constant struggle to make it look the way I need it to. I ONLY use the railing when "close enough" is all that I need from it. Some of my work is low level spec/tract home projects that thrive on close enough. Most of my work is very high end, where the words "close enough" are never spoken... and thus the railing is almost never used.

What we need is the ability to turn off all "connection rules" and end conditions, and just have an extrusion that follows a path. Obviously, if you need a railing to goose neck, which is definitely more common, we need the transition/connection rules and options, but we ought to be able to just follow the vector without getting a clustered mess.

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Lingwisyer
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You can select the connection piece in Edit Mode and delete it or just set the connection type to Direct Connection.

 

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Though in your image you are ending two risers down in a single tread length?

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they only end there aesthetically... unless you can walk through balusters 

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can you share the "direct connection" option... not seeing that anywhere

 

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The issue with the height change is the amount of distortion you will get on your inside radius. The intent is for the railing to flatten out at the last tread, then wrap around and downwards?

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