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Don't move past the 1010 patch/hotfix

Anonymous
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I would recommend that users to not update past the 1010 patch. There seems to be several issues related to the subsequent updates. I have had to re-install Archicad and only update to the 1010 version. I currently have copies of both an up to date 1183 version and a 1010 installed so I have a testing ground before I move forward. Up to now I had been assuming the patch was an improvement.
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vfrontiers
Enthusiast
Can you give a synopsis of the trouble?

I seem to have run into a scheduling bug with Zones.... where zones on completely different stories interfere with another stories zones in a window or door schedule....
Duane

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Brad Elliott
Contributor
The zones problem has been around since the beginning of 10 and was supposedly fixed with the last update. I have had erratic success since then.
Mac OS10.13.6 AC23 USA Full

Hackintosh 4 GHz i7 32gb ram NVidia1060

vfrontiers
Enthusiast
Brad wrote:
The zones problem has been around since the beginning of 10 and was supposedly fixed with the last update. I have had erratic success since then.
Interesting.... I have schedules from a project done in 1010 that were perfect.... After upgrading to 1183, this problem showed up! Most of my houses are single story, so I might not have noticed before?
Duane

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Anonymous
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The two problems I have seen are as follows.

Certain PDF files when placed on a layout will not output if there overall size is greater than the printable area. Cropping the PDF on the sheet does not fix this and the only solution is to resize the PDF or increase your printable area. Related to this is a particular file I have that does not pick up the sheet sized of the layout in PDF output.

The second issue I have seen is more minor, but an annoyance. Text selection nodes seemed to have changed position and I have had some other anomalies related to text. This was with the 1176 patch and can't speak for the 1183 patch on this issue.

Anonymous
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Hi Mike,
In an office that uses both PPC and Mactels the 1183 build was very helpful. Previously the fonts would change size when opeing the file from the different platforms. Now the problem is fixed! If you don't have the dual platforms running, then maybe it's not worth it, as you say.

TomWaltz
Newcomer
I'm on 1183 now (both PPC and MacIntel), and it seems to be running fine.
Tom Waltz

vfrontiers
Enthusiast
Tom or Melissa,

Could you try the following...

1. Create a fresh plan with 2 stories
2. Place walls (just 4), a couple of doors and a zone on floor 1
3. Copy all to floor 2, change the door numbers and zone name/no.
4. Run a quick schedule that looks at doors w/ TO ROOM (or FROM ROOM) as one of the schedule items

Upon doing this, I get either just the 2nd floor with no room names or the entire schedule with no room names.

If this happens, move the 2nd floor wall away from the first floor walls and look at the schedule again...

Should take just a couple of minutes and would be a big help in trying to diagnose this for me.
Duane

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Anonymous
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There is definitely something happening to text in the 1183 update. It caused all my text (Arial Narrow) to reduce it's spacing width. I had to go back to 1010 to fix the problem.

I had noticed there were some text anomalies in early builds. Maybe this fix was trying to correct this.

I also experienced issues with printing multi-page PDFs placed on layouts. I had to re-save the PDF in Preview as a single page for it to work.

Update to 1183 with extreme caution.

vfrontiers
Enthusiast
Melisa wrote:
Hi Mike,
In an office that uses both PPC and Mactels the 1183 build was very helpful. Previously the fonts would change size when opeing the file from the different platforms. Now the problem is fixed! If you don't have the dual platforms running, then maybe it's not worth it, as you say.
I have recently noticed all my text changing from Arial Narrow to Tahoma.... Could this have been related? VERY FRUSTRATING..
Duane

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Anonymous
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vfrontiers wrote:
I have recently noticed all my text changing from Arial Narrow to Tahoma.... Could this have been related? VERY FRUSTRATING..
I am sure it is related to the 1183 hotfix. Text was fine for me before the 1183 fix. Upgraded to 1183 and it effected text on every single project. I went back to 1010 and everything went back to normal.

Anonymous
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sam66 wrote:
I am sure it is related to the 1183 hotfix. Text was fine for me before the 1183 fix. Upgraded to 1183 and it effected text on every single project. I went back to 1010 and everything went back to normal.
I noticed you are on an intel Mac. What you are likely experiencing is the text is finally displaying correctly. Up until the recent patch, the text spacing appeared different on the Intel Macs than it did on the PPC Mac and Windows platform. This made changing platforms with the same file next to impossible. I was working on an Intel Mac while my computer was in the shop and I had to ignore anything that had to do with text spacing until I got my computer back from the shop.

Anonymous
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Mike wrote:
I noticed you are on an intel Mac. What you are likely experiencing is the text is finally displaying correctly. Up until the recent patch, the text spacing appeared different on the Intel Macs than it did on the PPC Mac and Windows platform. This made changing platforms with the same file next to impossible. I was working on an Intel Mac while my computer was in the shop and I had to ignore anything that had to do with text spacing until I got my computer back from the shop.
I had noticed that there were some text anomalies in early builds when I moved to the MacBook Pro and 1183 did fix these. The problem is I have a years work spanning many projects on the intel mac platform that I continue to work on. I can't just upgrade and go back and fix the text on each project. Very time consuming.

I will have to stay on 1010 for quite a while yet.

I've noticed that the latest fix has some OpenGL issues. When I marquee an area in a 3D window and do a CTRL-C copy, the whole window goes black. (Pastes black, too.)
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
AC25 (since AC6.0), Win10

Anonymous
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Duane,
Tried exactly as you asked on a PPC G5 OSX 10.3.9 with the 1183 build and it works fine. I can try it on my PC tonight at home.

Anonymous
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great I just got problems today with arial narrow. I have had build 1183 for a while now. Has anyone had any feedback from Graphisoft?

Greg Kmethy
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
Duane,

I also tried your steps to find that 1183 works as expected. In fact, this area got a fix in 1183, and according to my tests, it works fine.
Gergely Kmethy
Director of Customer Support Services
Graphisoft
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Greg Kmethy
Graphisoft
Graphisoft
sam66 wrote:
I will have to stay on 1010 for quite a while yet.
Don't do that. Even though it is a tedious job to fix all text, the longer you avoid this, the more work you will have later on. The problem was not just the difference between PPC and Intel Macs. IntelMAC did not display the text with the settings you have specified. It got spacing and font size wrong. This was a result of a bad function in the OS that we had to circumvent in the latest Hotfix
Gergely Kmethy
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Anonymous
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gkmethy wrote:
sam66 wrote:

I will have to stay on 1010 for quite a while yet.


Don't do that. Even though it is a tedious job to fix all text, the longer you avoid this, the more work you will have later on. The problem was not just the difference between PPC and Intel Macs. IntelMAC did not display the text with the settings you have specified. It got spacing and font size wrong. This was a result of a bad function in the OS that we had to circumvent in the latest Hotfix


Who should I bill, Graphisoft or Apple? Because it would take days to go through my current projects and change all the text.

It is not as simple as selecting the text and it corrects itself. It changes alignment, leading and spacing, especially with multi-line text blocks. This all has to be corrected, which is extremely time consuming.

Anonymous
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Due to the latest hotfix, ArchiCAD 10 projects started acting very strange.
1. Many OpenGL issues : no 3D window in OpenGL available, black window or automatic switch to internal engine or very slow or crash or...
2. Regenerating elevations took me 10 minutes (before seconds), even for adjusting a simple sill or pen color in 3DA!
3. Most annoying, I couldn't modify vectorial hatches within materials without crashes. Every project, every attempt!

Back to version 987 and everything works fine again. Still I would like Graphisoft to offer all the patches of the latest ArchiCAD version on there server to avoid this waste of time. I cannot reach patch 1010 wich worked perfect for me!

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