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Critique Wanted

Anonymous
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Feedback / Insight of peoples opinions on how to improve upon this image would be appreciated..... Dwight?
eg. pro's & con's

(AC9 & Art R with a little p/shop)

Thanks,
Peter

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Anonymous
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some entourage altered along with background along with colours
Anonymous
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WhiteMan wrote:
Well, first of all, you have to say which program did you use
I usually don't tell my secrets, but just for you, it was modeled in archicad.
then some informations about rendering time...
I don't get it - I wrote that rendering time was 35 min., what else should I write about it?
I think that project is very big, so getting realistic render is much harder then in small projects, but it is possible.
Its possible but needs lot of time, i don't want the rendering to be the major part of my architectural worktime. I have to learn about some visualization technics that Dwight mentioned, with their help even 2nd class rendering can look good and it takes maybe 1 - 2 hours to make it: 1. putting additional objects like cars, peoples... 2. adjusting materials and sun angle with help of small rendering pics 3. final rendering 4.photoshop - fast correction all that in 1-2hr. Thats good - isnt it?
As I sad, you have to say what program did you use.
Its not a secret to you any more but don't tell it to the others, I don't wanna have strong concurrence here around, let them think i'm using some other program, ok?
Also, shadows could be better...
Yeah, they really look poor! No radiosity at all. But saved lot of time.
Is the model done in ArchiCAD?
If someone asks you about my program - no it is not that one! No one here is talking about his modeling program, its like asking coca-cola company what is exactly the ratio of ingredients they put in cola or asking microsoft to give you the code key of windows so you could reprogram it. They would never tell u such a thing, its a special secret.
Where did you find models of planes, trains...
I got planes, helicopter, ballon, cars and peoples in my additional archicad library. Only the trains I had to get from artlantis. I positioned the trains in artlantis to be approx. in same position as they should be on the pic, rendered them and photoshoped into a pic (its best if u use white background so u can make white color easily disappear in photoshop) after that i did some cutting, rotating, perspective and shadow corrections and thats it.
About trees, cars I have to say that I completely agree with Dwight
Apsolutly. Especially with the large trees on the middle of the pic. These are archicads basic trees that are scaled about 3 times so they have now giant leafs. I could scale the leafs back but than had to put more leafs on the tree and that means more processing time for computer. Trees slow the work dramatically. The only problem is that I don't like translucent spheres on sticks, even if it would be the right thing for such picture.
Dwight
Newcomer
Much better!

The job still looks sinister and dark, however.
That's probably how it would appear in a photo, but that is not how we want to remember the place.

So i brightened the soffits. See? Happy happy, get snappy! This corresponds to the memory of the building because, while a photo responds to only one exposure set, when the human eye darts around a building facade, it makes incremental exposure adjustments to suppress highlights and see into shadows. The illustrator must compensate for this problem in his final image.

Brickwork still too strong.

I liked having trees in the background on the right.
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Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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Still windows are "empty". Try to put some reflection to them - real or fake with a dffuse map.

Glass on the balcony is the same as windows - since windows are in the shadow, it should be lighter.

Also, remember Dwight's slogan about white. Both the white wall and the brown wall on the left lack grain and are too "plastic". Same with the asphalt. The tree on the left is too dark - needs more green.
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Anonymous
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not perfect, still need a little bump on walls & maybe some foreground elements like road shadows etc, but this will have to do ......run out of time, but still satisfied with final result...thanks guys for terrific input...will come to good use in the future...Client was very happy

thanks Dwight, Klement & co
Anonymous
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Mr. Dwight, I don't wanna bother you, but would you tell me in few words what do u think about this image? I'm very curious!
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Dwight
Newcomer
I find myself predictably uninspired by this work.
Dwight Atkinson
Anonymous
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back to Dwight's basics.
STORY ... this looks like an add for a roofing membrane.
Djordje
Virtuoso
Dwight wrote:
I find myself predictably uninspired by this work.


Thanks.

The project in question is GE WPT, Jebel Ali Free Zone, Dubai. Finished two months ago.

The Client called at lunchtime and asked me whether we could have a rendering because an article on their development is being published in a local paper. Deadline? Yesterday. Project done in AutoCAD, no model.

He had the rendering in four hours. It was good enough.
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
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Anonymous
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Đoka:

Project done in AutoCAD, no model.

He had the rendering in four hours.
I would be very very satisfied with this result if I could make that (starting from Autocad 2d lines) in four hours.

Usually this level of 3d presentation is enough for our clients. For smaller projects, like family houses, they don't even order 3d views, they r satisfied with facade projections done with 2d autocad lines and some hatches that simulate shadows and a little vegetation.