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I need more*WHAM* factor :)

Karl Ottenstein
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Just from a lighting point of view, it is flat.

My guess is that you have the 'camera light' checked (if this is really LW and not the internal engine? It is bad enough to look like the internal one.)

The camera light is a wonderful feature to allow anything to be illuminated so that you can see where you are... but isn't going to help produce a realistic lighting scenario.

Ditch the camera light, turn down ambient, add some yellow/orange to your sun(it is too cold now, especially for the time of day [low angle]), and add window lights to cast some diffuse illumination into the room. Try (I haven't yet myself) Dwight's tip in another thread to place a window light in a warm color on the ceiling to add ambiance.

Add some entourage ... try the archicado.fr web site for some good kitchen objects, for example ...

Good luck!

Karl
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Dwight
Newcomer
You have found a colleague.

Lighting due to Gil Taylor, famed cinematographer : Also Hard Day's Night and Star Wars....
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Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
And this entire scene where Lionel Mandrake turns off the lights of the situation room one at a time - like the whole world is dying.

How do I have these?

Routine investigation.
Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
The force is invisible.

Film does not have the "lattitude" to correctly expose a given frame from just one light - even the sun - unless it is a huge and diffused one. You got fooled - they are filling the space with light indirectly.
Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
Professional photography always looks so dull in the studio but reveals all details in light and shadow. So even in Strangelove, where you think it is black, they have filled the space enough to reveal some detail - enough to prove a form is there at least.
Dwight Atkinson
stefan
Advisor
Dwight wrote:
Book

Robert McKee "Story"

Lampooned in excellent movie "Adaptation."
It that is the movie I'm thinking it is...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268126/
Yes it is.
Euh... my wife and I didn't like it.
Certainly the over-the-edge ending... So plain wrong.
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stefan
Advisor
More "Wham":

From the 3D-Total projects:
http://67.15.36.49/ffa/tutorials/tutorialsoverviews.asp

Often a combination of modelling, texturing & lighting. Sometimes not using radiosity or other tricks at all...

Celtic Soccer
http://67.15.36.49/team/Tutorials/v9_mattin/mattin_01.asp

Texturing
http://67.15.36.49/team/Tutorials/balazs_tut/balazs_tut01.asp

Hungarian House
http://67.15.36.49/team/Tutorials/Karin_t-texture/karin_t-texture_01.asp

Helms Deep
http://67.15.36.49/team/tutorials/helmsdeep/helmsdeep.asp

The diner
http://67.15.36.49/team/tutorials/po_diner/diner.asp

La Hacienda
http://67.15.36.49/team/tutorials/lahacienda/lahacienda1.asp

(Often done with tools like Maya or 3ds max and using several advanced rendering engines, but each tutorial has benefits for whatever software you might use)
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Dwight
Newcomer
Re: Adaptation:

I could see how someone wouldn't like this movie - raw, violent and makes you uncomfortable with tension most of the time. Watching genius can do that.

You really need to be a student of fim making [as I am--a dilettante] to appreciate the jokes in the movie. Reading McKee's book would give insight as to the tricks they played - a respectful orchid thief story turned into a Hollywood movie - with cynical contempt. I liked it because it was totally belivable but it broadcasts all the time that it is the screenwriter jerking us around with plot twists. "Hey, here's an idea to save this impossible story" and then you see it play out.

I watch this once a month at least. In awe.

BTW: Charlie Kaufman is real, but the brother is fiction. Didn't stop the fictional brother from being nominated for an award an having his own place at IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0442134/bio
Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
Remember while you watch that it is about a writer's challenge turning a non-fiction book with no "story" into a movie with a compelling story - a fiction. It is also one of those rare movies where what people actually say means something. When Kaufmann has a drink with McKee, McKee says "it is all in the ending - do anything, but be logical - don't cheat", and when Kaufmann sits with his a|s|s|h|o|l|e agent who says "No story? Make one up." the set-up for the "joke" is complete.

And I wouldn't want to spoil anything for you but the fictional twin brother is the perfect metaphor for the resolution of the character's neurotic conflict [a necessary part of ending a movie that satisfies] and in this way, the writer has made a totally original screenplay that completely follows McKee's rules of a successful Hollywood storyline. Genius, but remains respectful to what "story" is.
Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
And remember, this is about Wham factor, not max factor.
Dwight Atkinson
Dwight
Newcomer
I make the comparison to makeup because all of this lightsandsurfacing we do in our renderings - it just covers the future rotting deterioration beneath.

Like my Auntie Doris. Krikey, don't ask me to kiss that powdered cheek, again! Besides, I wasn't in the will.

This is especially true if you owned a condominium in Vancouver build since 1990 using the acrylic stucco on plywood with flush top parapet method to maximise Floor Space Ratio.

Can you say mildew?
Dwight Atkinson