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Anonymous
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Like the option for objects, need an option for walls to turn off 3d. I can think of a number of reasons for this but one is foundation plans. You don't want 3d, you don't want to mess around with fill. When the size changes, it is just one click. If it is fill, or lines it takes a lot more time.
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Laszlo Nagy
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I will not ask why you want to do this or say that your should model your walls and whole Project, for that matter.

The closest thing you can do to achieve this is to select the Wall and use the Explode command. The 3D of the Wall will be gone, and its 2D symbol will be exploded into Lines and Fills.
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Barry Kelly
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If you are not modelling the 3D, then just use the walls in plan anyway and don't worry about the height.
Or set them all as zero height walls.
Then you will still have all the benefits of trimming and stretching in plan.

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Anonymous
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Barry- I would, but, setting a wall to 0 still is visible in model and still messes with other wall intersections, I do not do everything in 2d. I do everything hybrid. I don't want 2d items such as footings to show on 3d and I don't like to spend time modeling everything. Draw in 2d and it is guaranteed to be in that place only. Model in 3d and is guaranteed you have to go hunting for what was screwed up by what you did.

Eduardo Rolon
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If you don't want them to intersect or interact with other objects then you change the Intersection Number for the layer those walls reside in.
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Anonymous
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I know all the workarounds, this is a wish list because we are after less.

Eduardo Rolon
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frankyvero wrote:
I know all the workarounds, this is a wish list because we are after less.
Very well but I am not part of the "We needing less" so I don't consider it as something "needed".
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Anonymous
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I should have been rephrased that, because what someone might consider a workaround others would consider it there standard workflow. So I guess I am wrong on needing less workarounds, maybe just less that don't make sense to ME

Eduardo Rolon
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And rephrasing the rephrase the correct procedure for avoiding items interacting with others is to have them in Layers with different priority numbers. Which means that this is not a work around.
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Anonymous
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True. Until you change layer sets. Then you start the wheels turning, just for a simple task. Who's on first, what's on 2nd.

Barry Kelly
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frankyvero wrote:
True. Until you change layer sets. Then you start the wheels turning, just for a simple task. Who's on first, what's on 2nd.
Every layer combination can have different Intersection Priority Number for each layer.
So in one combination you turn on the foundation layer with an IPN different to the other wall layers so they do not intersect.
In other layer combinations if you do not want to see the foundation walls then you turn off the layer (still with a different IPN).
If you happen to want the foundation walls to interact with other walls, then just set the IPN the same for those wall layers and save that as a new layer combination.

It sounds like you just need a plan layer combination that shows the foundation wall layer and all section, elevation, 3D and other plan layer combinations (basically all other layer combinations) to hide the foundation wall layer.
The foundation layer should have an IPN different to any of your other wall layers in ALL of the layer combinations so they never interact with anything else.

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Steve Jepson
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frankyvero wrote:
Like the option for objects, need an option for walls to turn off 3d. I can think of a number of reasons for this but one is foundation plans. You don't want 3d, you don't want to mess around with fill. When the size changes, it is just one click. If it is fill, or lines it takes a lot more time.
I know exactly what you mean and I would find that useful too. Stacking drawings in a Layout is how it can also be done. But there are times when just simple and fast 2D work is more efficient. Sometimes we need to quickly edit drawings that are from another program. Lot's of reasons to have a full set of 2D tools.

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