Add object to beam and columns' segments

[Anonymous]

Hi all,
Since AC 23 add segments for beam and cloumn,I wonder Why we can't add object to this segments
I mean that avalible for railing and stairs part and curtain wall panel.
I understand if they add this. that will limit the ability of controlling like ability of curve the beam ( like taper with curved beam now) but we can model any beam or column and when we need to modify this column only the part without object can be modifed .
only add option like ( save object as beam \column segment)
.....
maybe it is not essential, but will give very great detailed beam and column

[Anonymous]

I am pretty sure you can. But you will have to create a new CP (based on the I beam) and add an offset modifier to the height of the bottom part. Then add a node to the beam and select that CP with custom start/end dimensions. Like this:

[Achille Pavlidis]

WOW!

Please can you elaborate on the process to achieve this result?

[runxel]

Like this, I think.
You make a modifier which links the top from the bottom plate to the plate in the middle, then you link the most bottom plate to a node of it's top. This way it automatically moves up, if you use the "height" modifier in 3d.

[Anonymous]

Sure. Here is the CP I created based on an IPE240 Steel profile.
Note that I added an Offset modifier to control the bottom part of the profile.
Then you add it to a segmented beam with tapered size.
Finally, in 3d you select the beam, with edit mode, and stretch the offset modifier to match the mid section of the beam.

[Achille Pavlidis]

Perfect!!!

Thanks @Braza and @runxel

[Anonymous]

I'm glad it helped Achille.
I just recently discovered the huge versatility of these new beams and columns.
You just can't see anything like this in other BIM software.

[Achille Pavlidis]

Yes very nice indeed

Although...

Labelling doesn't work anymore once you add custom profiles to the beam...

[Anonymous]

Yes. It seems this one goes to the wishlist...
But I pretty sure you can workaround this with Properties.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Achille wrote:
Yes very nice indeed

Although...

Labelling doesn't work anymore once you add custom profiles to the beam...



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This works for me in AC23 b5005 INT.
Yes, it is true that if you set the Structure of the Beam to "Rectangular" or "Circular", the Label displays "#Complex Profile" like it is shown on your screenshot. This is correct since in such cases, the "Complex Profile" setting does not apply.
However, if you set the Structure of the Beam to "Complex Profile" then the Label correctly displays the name of the Complex Profile.

[Achille Pavlidis]

Well, this is odd! It does not work for me.

If I put a label on a beam with complex profile and no custom endings, it shows fine. The moment I change the endings, with the one I created, the label immediately changes to "Complex profile"