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Architects need / wants good quality image - 3D View

Vojtech Slavik
Advocate

Hi I can't describe how important for Architects is get GOOD and FAST image / preview or illustration without using render software / render / exporting to another software .

 

- I wish to have possibility to save 3D view in Good kvality (300DPI) for 4k Monitor 

 

Skärmavbild 2022-05-19 kl. 10.22.21.jpg

 

- I don't wanna have this image resolution on 2022. 

- I'm doing on daily base so many alternatives and so many changes and I need to show without rendering or exporting to another software

 

- I think everyone will be so happy for this option. 👍

 

● Right now I have to do screenshot from 3D view and put in drawings layout because quality is much better to take Screen shot from 3D View ( This is real pain to do all the time ! ) And doit again and again with any new change.

 

Skärmavbild 2022-05-16 kl. 14.57.01.jpg

What is this quality ? I can  see how bad is raster of this image 😞 Skärmavbild 2022-05-16 kl. 14.57.14.jpg 

AC 7 - 25 SWE

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017),

4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
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martinij
Booster

I think you can do a little workaround by right clicking in the 3D window and selecting "set window size". Then you can choose the size you want and "save as" a raster image. Or you can save the view and use the publisher.

 

The Norwegian Archicad dealer has a article about it in norwegian if you whant to have a look.

https://support.Graphisoft.no/hc/no/articles/4407710189970-H%C3%B8yere-oppl%C3%B8sning-p%C3%A5-3D-vi...

Martin Isak Jansen
(I'm the one everyone at my company asks the tech questions)
www.artec.no

I tried this and this is not working at least for MAC. 😕

Otherwise this solution is so strange and annoying too because you have to dock the window after every time when you changed proportion.

Wish some solution where can I just write quality for 3D view (dpi)

AC 7 - 25 SWE

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017),

4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

only perspective view not ortho view

AC 25 CHI, Windows 10

Why dont you use twinmotion? The quality you can get in real time is amazing

Because it Need export -> render -> place on the drawings
and it can do just one alternativ in same-time.

My question / wish is not about illustration is about to have possibility to show 3D model in good and fast quality

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4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Petar
Contributor

Also, I think the quality of shading in 3d view has to be improved asap. It is hardly acceptable to have 3d view without any shading gradient, ambient occlusion, or any other 3d effect which would make 3d view more "understandable" 

There were time when two different surfaces with same color looks the same although there is space between them, only because of flat shading of 3d view

Until your wishes come true some other options:

  • make a 3D document instead. This will jus update with any changes automatically, since it is directly linked to the model
  • a properly set up scene for cinerender can render at comparable quality of a screenshot in about a minute, given that you have decent hardware and efficient surfaces / model and don't go into unnecesarily high pixel count (anything 2300x1000 pixels will print fine on A4 and look fine on HD screens and small devices that clients use to look at your output)

 

It would be nice to just publish the internal engine directly to JPG format though.

Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-24 NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5

Size of pepper is not relevant for this case. I'm not printing it.
I'm showing this alternatives on screen / teams meeting etc. / PDF. 

I'm using layout for presentation and for sending to my client. They just want to see or zoom on 3D perspektiv.


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iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017),

4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

jshuether
Booster

I recommend Enscape for real-time high quality renders. It works well with Archicad (and SketchUp and Revit).  I recommend also getting an NVIDIA RTX graphics card for large models with a higher amount of geometry. The increased quality and speed of the renders are well worth the price of the RTX cards.

 

I did not like the Twinmotion interface or quality of its interior rendering.

ArchiCAD 25

Windows 10

I think you don't get my point I don't wanna render I just want to save 3D view with good quality at leas what I can see in preview. ( I wish little bit better )

Because when I save 3D view on layout the quality drop down.
I can do render but this is not case for rendering.
How I wrote " without using render software / render / exporting to another software "


I have 10-20 alternatives and I want to present fast with some quality of image. not this rasterized image what I get from Archicad.

BTW.: I'm Mac user Enscape doesn't support Mac now

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Barry Kelly
Moderator

You don't have to render with Cinerender (or Redshift if you have that option).

If you are happy with what you see in the 3D window, you can render with the Basic Renderer engine.

 

BarryKelly_0-1653010118629.png

 

You can adjust the image size and pixels per inch/cm.

You will probably still need to tweak some settings for brightness, etc., but you can save the scene.

 

Barry.


One of the forum moderators.
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Barry this is render. How I wrote I don't wanna render every 3D View.

- I have 10-20 alternatives and I moving windows, balconies and other object.
- I want/wish it just publish in 3D view with good quality at least what I can see on my screen or better.
export 3D view on layout change quality of imagy so bad 😕

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iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017),

4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Last month I posted on how we could get 9600 x7200 resolution from the OpenGL 3D live window on Mac in AC24 but lost that ability in AC25.

https://community.Graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes-forum/Increase-resolution-of-3D-views-produced-from-Axon-...

I also included a short video of how to do it so that the aspect ratio is not messed up and you don't have to keep undocking the 3D window.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4crjq6v3z3g9ug/High-Resolution%20Images%20from%20AC24.mp4?dl=0

Amazingly, the Views setup like this in AC24, retain their live updating and resolution after migration to AC25. So, the technology has not been totally eliminated under the hood of AC25.

BTW, having high resolution from the 3D window is another reason to update the default surfaces to brighter and more beautiful versions. Just be mindful of the index numbers so that the library, etc. continue to default to good surfaces. (There's about 30 years of Graphisoft tradition in the Archicad Library and surface indexes it references.)

Ransom Ratcliff
RATCLIFF CONSULTING LLC
Charrette Venture Group
ArchiCAD 4.55 - 25
Autodesk Certified Professional in Revit
macOS + Windows

Thank you. I will look at it trough Camera. I tried it just for 3D view (save) and it doesn't work on Mac. I extended size of window and saved it but when I dock the window back the size od 3D view changed to back. It's mean I couldn't save this size for Drawings.

 

- I'll let you know is this work.

 

 

Anyway my wish is same please let us set this quality of image somehow easier/user friendly.

AC 7 - 25 SWE

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017),

4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Hi Ransom Ratcliff . For me it doesn't work 😕 the settings do nothing

 

I have Archicad 25 - 4013 SWE FULL


Here is video : 

AC 7 - 25 SWE

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017),

4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Hi Vojtech, sorry if I misunderstand.

But you say, "I have Archicad 25 - 4013 SWE FULL" and I explained in both posts that it worked in Archicad 24 but was disabled in Archicad 25.

Sorry, I could not tell from your video if you are testing AC24 or 25.

But I strongly agree with the "wish" that high resolution images should be enabled in Archicad. It has been a wish for a long time. It became really obvious when users got Retina screens or 4k screens on Windows, and they say the saved images or placed drawings dumb down the resolution by 50% from what we all could see on screen! Archicad was being so ridiculous that we could take a screenshot of what we could see and save it at the native resolution as an external PNG file, and then use that to at least get the resolution we could see on a large monitor!

And then it became an undocumented feature of AC24 that we could get even higher resolution on a View and place it as a drawing on a layout, than we could see on any monitor, if we used a camera view. Even better, we could do it without special video cards and it worked on Mac and Windows 10.

Then Graphisoft took it away again in AC25. So, my point was that we are asking for a very reasonable wish that should be easy to grant and a benefit to most users if they just knew about it. Indeed, if this technology were enabled again, the default DPI should be set to 240 or 300, instead of the ancient Mac Classic 72 DPI.

Easy, Live-updating, High-resolution views that do not require 3rd party tools like TM, would be a great feature for typical workflows in our industry. And we are so close to having it. There is a place for Rendering, but it is no substitute.

Ransom Ratcliff
RATCLIFF CONSULTING LLC
Charrette Venture Group
ArchiCAD 4.55 - 25
Autodesk Certified Professional in Revit
macOS + Windows

Thank you, I agree. Sorry for my video I linked corectli but I ccannost see it .

Anyway it's not important anymore https://youtu.be/wcqprXDmit4 

Yes, I wish to fulfill our wish

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4,2 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

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