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Beam appearance in plan view

KrisM
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I have a series of beams and rafters which are all modeled as beams. The rafter passes over the top of the beam. In plan view I cannot get the rafter to hide the portion of the beam over which it passes. Rafters and and beams are on separate layers with different layer priorities. I have tried different graphic overrides and display orders. The cut plane for the view is below the beams and rafters. I'm at a loss here. Maybe someone has a solution.
KrisM
Kris Marteinsson
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Unfortunately beams do not have a fill in plan, so they can not hide anything they are above.
There are probably a few wishes for this already, here is one ...


https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15891&p=288937&hilit=beam+fill#p288937


Believe me Graphisoft is well aware of this wish.
Just when it will be granted - who knows, but we keep asking.

Barry.

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Stress Co_
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Use a fill over the beam and VOTE.
https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15891&hilit=beam+cover+wish

EDIT:
Barry beat me to the punch.
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KrisM wrote:
I have a series of beams and rafters which are all modeled as beams. The rafter passes over the top of the beam. In plan view I cannot get the rafter to hide the portion of the beam over which it passes. Rafters and and beams are on separate layers with different layer priorities. I have tried different graphic overrides and display orders. The cut plane for the view is below the beams and rafters. I'm at a loss here. Maybe someone has a solution.
KrisM
If you have access to the US library, all of the RoofMaker parts have fills, like Beam RM22, as does the Joist Beam 22 object, and there are a number of third-party beams with fills. (e.g. Cadimage Objective) Basically, you need to expand your thinking beyond the Beam tool and be willing to use Objects instead.
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
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KrisM
Newcomer
Thanks to all for your suggestions. I have voted for fill in beams and have discovered the beam objects. Some of these objects are straightforward but others like the rafters with a birdsmouth have a particularly convoluted logic. This seems to be a Archicad thing where you are presented with a number of variables which do not respond to any logical order of entry. Still a great program though. Just sometimes a puzzle.
Kris Marteinsson
http://www.khmdesign.ca
AC22 USA Win 10 Home 64 Bit
Intel i7 - 6700K, 32 GB Ram, 500 GB SSD
Nvidia GTX 980 Ti, Dell 34" 3440x1440

Barry Kelly
Moderator
KrisM wrote:
This seems to be a Archicad thing where you are presented with a number of variables which do not respond to any logical order of entry.

Probably was logical to the person that created it.
Just not logical to the end users.
I have done that myself when creating objects.

Barry.

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KrisM
Newcomer
Okay, I figured out the beam (rafter) object this morning. Just couldn't get it yesterday. I come to Archicad from Revit who's logic made total sense to me. Learning Archicad is like learning another language (not a related one). Must be the different mindset between my Icelandic heritage and the Hungarian developers of Archicad.
Kris Marteinsson
http://www.khmdesign.ca
AC22 USA Win 10 Home 64 Bit
Intel i7 - 6700K, 32 GB Ram, 500 GB SSD
Nvidia GTX 980 Ti, Dell 34" 3440x1440

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