Detail tool deterrent

[Aussie John]

there a couple of things that prevent me using the detail tool (which is a great idea in principle)

1)3d editablility is lost so in early staes of a project it is not work setting up details

2)origin in plan detail (and section) moves to the centre of the detail. Cutting and pasting items from the main plan are now awkward

I could possibly use the detail tool without item 1) so long as there is an option to retain the origin ( item 2)


Development of the detail tool must continue well past the current level of refinement

[Anonymous]

Aussie wrote:
I discovered recently that you can reference a section to show the plotmaker sheet. Is it possible to back reference the section to the plotmaker sheet with the plan?

No, the communication is 1 way, but... if you organize your details...

[Link]

While we're at it (and I haven't had time to read every line of every post, so excuse me if it has already been mentioned), I would like the detail to to be able to be placed on the floor plan, but actually cut a section through the model, where it is placed and have that appear directly in the detail window. This will save us cutting a (sometimes unwanted) section through the building, and then taking a detail from that.

Cheers,
Link.

[Anonymous]

Link,

If they let us link detail markers to section/elevation windows, you could mostly do what you want. Sure you'd have to create a section/elevation too but it would help.

Not that I don't support your idea. I just wanted to put out mine too.

[Anonymous]

Link wrote:
While we're at it (and I haven't had time to read every line of every post, so excuse me if it has already been mentioned), I would like the detail to to be able to be placed on the floor plan, but actually cut a section through the model, where it is placed and have that appear directly in the detail window. This will save us cutting a (sometimes unwanted) section through the building, and then taking a detail from that.

Why not just cut a small section?

[Aussie John]

Matthew wrote:
Why not just cut a small section?

Yes possible but an extra step work around none the less

[Anonymous]

Aussie wrote:

Matthew wrote:
Why not just cut a small section?

Yes possible but an extra step work around none the less

What is the extra step? I have often used this approach to make section details. Now that the section markers can look anyway I want them (i.e. acceptable) there is no other step. Just place the marker, open the section, finish the drawing.

Honestly, I don't think this is a work around but best practice for section details that do not appear in building sections (for those I like the detail tool).

[Aussie John]

Matthew if all you want is a section detail then creating a 3d section first is an extra step

[Link]

With all due respect Matthew, I just don't think we should have to. I know as well as you do how simple it is to work around, but is this ArchiCAD or WorkaroundCAD? I train people constantly, and I have come to realize just how many times I need to explain workarounds. When a complete newbie asks me why the deatil tool doesn't cut a section from the floor plan, this new 'perspective' forces me to think back to basics, and makes me realize that they do have a valid point. As I keep telling GS - please let us have some consistency!

Looking forward to meeting you in the next few days.

Cheers,
Link.

[Anonymous]

Aussie wrote:
Matthew if all you want is a section detail then creating a 3d section first is an extra step

The section IS the detail. No extra step involved.

[Anonymous]

Link wrote:
With all due respect Matthew, I just don't think we should have to. I know as well as you do how simple it is to work around, but is this ArchiCAD or WorkaroundCAD? I train people constantly, and I have come to realize just how many times I need to explain workarounds. When a complete newbie asks me why the deatil tool doesn't cut a section from the floor plan, this new 'perspective' forces me to think back to basics, and makes me realize that they do have a valid point. As I keep telling GS - please let us have some consistency!

Perhaps I am dense, but I don't see how it is a work around to use the section tool to make a section detail. I agree that there are issues of consistency of operation that need to be addressed throughout the program (as discussed extensively at New working environment) but these are issues that need to be addressed in a larger context.

The only problem I can see with using the section tool for these section details is that they will be listed in the Navigator separately from details drawn from building sections. This isn't a problem for me since I don't have any cross over in these techniques (it could happen though) and they drawings can be reordered in the view set as needed.

The difficulty I have with using the detail tool to cut sections is that it would become significantly more complicated by adding to it all the features of the section tool. This complexity raises the issue from a simple isolated wish into the broader topic of the overall organization of all the drawing types and how they interrelate.

Looking forward to meeting you in the next few days.

Cheers,
Link.

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