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FBX Export Archicad 25

Coulouri
Contributor

Is there at plan to give us the option to export to FBX in the future?
I see that many users talk about it but turn it to that there now is a solution to it by Datasmith to use with Twinmotion. But not all of us work with Twinmotion.

I work with 3D Studio/VRay and Unreal for many of our projects and sure Datasmith is nice to have in Archicad, but not to have the chance to export to FBX for 3D Studio or Blender is really a bummer. To not have the opportunity to have linked projects with FBX-files makes revisions a really hard days work.

FBX-Files is used by many 3D software and gives Archicad projects the chance to go in many different ways for presentation to clients. To just say we have Datasmith is to say that we only work with Twinmotion and Unreal, I don't just want to work with those, I want my projects to have the opportunity to expand in many other 3D applications. 

Maybe I missed something but I cant find the Export FBX anywhere.

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Or simpley use AC 24

Pavel Tsochev
Booster

Thanks! 😁

Karl Wir_n
Enthusiast

I have waited a while changing from AC24 to AC25. When I did and saw that the FBX-export is removed I realized our office can't switch to AC25. We are dependent on FBX export to 3DS MAX. And, no, exporting 3ds-files from Archicad is not an option. The obj-export is not good either. So far FBX works best although it too has flaws.

Graphisoft, this must be solved!

It was a surprise for me too how this export got overlooked. Probably the whole connection got outsourced to Epic Games and they just decided to cut off all other visualization software unilaterally, thinking that such a move could slip unnoticed.

It's a very troubling trend by GS when they do this. The way they stripped so many functions from the "new" 2020 BIMx, and now eliminating saving to FBX makes me think that something else is at risk of being lost; since things come in threes,

 

My advice is to save as a Sketchup model, then save as FBX from Sketchup. Of course this would require. subscription to Sketchup.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
16" MacBook Pro; M1 Max (2021), 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 32-Core GPU
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

just use the RVT export from AC25 in the mean time while Graphisoft comes up with a solution.

The RVT file works just like the FBX.. (well almost) and it can be referenced linked in 3DS MAX as well. So you can have a working AC25 <--> 3DS MAX workflow even without FBX.

Minh Nguyen
Graphisoft Moderator
Graphisoft Moderator

Hello,

 

I'm very sorry for the experience, but I would like to clarify it once again because this is not correct: this function (as well as the connection) was developed entirely by Epic Games. As much as we want to keep it, since Epic Games decided to move away from this format, we didn't receive further support for FBX from Epic Games. Thus, this function is not available in Archicad 25. 

I'm very sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your understanding!

 

Best regards,

Minh

Minh Nguyen
Technical Support Engineer
GRAPHISOFT

That's a bit contrary to what was relayed on the Twinmotion FB page (moderated by Epic). However, it makes sense that "they" developed it. However, FBX is widely used export format. So the question is why can't GS simply create the add-on export as they have for the dozen or more other formats? Some of which are really obscure. Thanks for the reply.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
16" MacBook Pro; M1 Max (2021), 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 32-Core GPU
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

Nuge
Advocate

I use to use this plugin for C4d (before enscape) i see that they have a 3ds Max version as well.

I was very happy with this product when i was using it and the developer Istvan was very approachable,  maybe you could contact him to see if an FBX option would be available

 

https://din3d.org/

 

 

AC25 i9 11900K / 128G ram / GTX 3090 / Enscape

Wanted to share another plugin I came across a long time ago: Mirza Plugin

However I have no idea if it’s still being developed (doesn’t look so) or if it would work with AC25. 

AC25 // Ryzen 2700x / GTX 1660ti // Corona / Quixel / Twinmotion / Rhino

İmge Mimarlık // instagram

Yes, din3d is indeed a good option for communication between Archicad and 3dsMax. We bought the addon a while ago and tested it. In some aspects it is even better than the fbx-export that Epic Games developed for Archicad. However, it is not possible to continue updating projects that are already set up for the fbx workflow using the din3d plug-in. Settings don´t match. That's why the removal of the built in export came as an unwanted surprise.

Our office has been testing different ways of exporting 3d-models from Archicad for many years but there are always some issues that have to be fixed manually after import.

I hope Graphisoft realize that the user quality of Archicad depends both on how good it works on it's own and how good it communicates with the rest of the 3d-world.

 

Pavel Tsochev
Booster

Users would have given the feedback on the communication with the 3d-world if there was any heads up for this change. There is no single mention of FBX in the entire 4040 page Reference guide. Furthermore while the epic games plugin was not up for almost 2 months after the release of AC25, people were asking them on their forum and they gave zero mention or hint that fbx will be excluded. Had this change been at least noted before the actual release of the direct link on 20.August, users would have given the feedback.

And I'm almost certainl that when a moderator to the forum replied they stated it was in Graphisoft's court. I does make more sense that it is an Epic Games developed add-on, but there's some passing of the buck going on.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
16" MacBook Pro; M1 Max (2021), 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 32-Core GPU
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

Can you point me to that forum post by any chance?

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Are you a member of the Twinmotion Facebook group? It was around when Archicad 25's Datasmith link was released and people were asking why FBX wasn't an option and the moderator who responded said it was a Graphisoft developed link. I'll see if I can locate it, but it's probably hundreds of FB posts back.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
16" MacBook Pro; M1 Max (2021), 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 32-Core GPU
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin

Thanks, Rex.

I am not a member but I will check it out, see if I can find it and clarify this developer question for those users as well.

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In their reply:
"... if Archicad users need and FBX exporter it should be supported and managed by Graphisoft or the specific applications where the content requires an FBX format."

This must be the stance of Epic of which the earlier moderator in the FB group alluded to, but oversimplifying it saying it was Graphisoft's issue.

Would be nice to finally get it worked out and have an FBX option. Thanks Laszlo.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
16" MacBook Pro; M1 Max (2021), 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 32-Core GPU
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

Emre Senoglu
Advocate

For those wanting an official word on the matter, TM team has replied on the official TM forum: thread

AC25 // Ryzen 2700x / GTX 1660ti // Corona / Quixel / Twinmotion / Rhino

İmge Mimarlık // instagram

Thanks for the link. I replied there also expressing why FBX is a much desired "option" over Datasmith (and previously Direct Link). It does seem with their response that they sort of put the blame on GS a little by saying (and I'm paraphrasing) "they didn't tell us they wanted to keep FBX out."

Anyway, I do understand that it is "not" their responsibility to provide FBX out option for Archicad, although it was nice to have it for not only TM, but for AR apps and to create widely accessible assets out of Archicad.

So this again begs the question, with aaaallllll of the other 3D export options, shouldn't a world-class software like Archicad provide an export to one of the most widely transferable 3D formats? I hope someone at GS provides this soon, and not wait until v26.

Rex Maximilian, Honolulu, USA - www.rexmaximilian.com
ArchiCAD 25 (user since 3.4, 1991)
16" MacBook Pro; M1 Max (2021), 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 32-Core GPU
Creator of the Maximilian ArchiCAD Template System

JesperJ
Contributor

Our workflow will not work without FBX! Our achitect firm is staying on 24 for now...

 

 

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