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I wish all Anchor Points Showed up when modeling 2D & 3D

Gus
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I wish all anchor points for all elements, objects, and especially doors and windows were visible as a node that was a subtly different color than the regular window and door nodes/dots. This stems from the fact that every object has an origin, which is it's ultimate location in the model. Thus, this origin is extremely important and when editing these models and drawings we need to know where the object/element/door/window is placed. Unless we know where the origin of an object is, we actually do not know the real location of the object while designing. Thus I think the origin should be visible at all times (or at the very least when we select the element or object). This should be done for every object and element. A simple subtle color change on the dots/nodes will tell us this. Almost nothing needs to change, and the visuals of the processes will change almost imperceptibly as well, but if we decide to look closely, we will be able to see where each object/element/door/window is placed exactly, and how it then will react to things like mirroring, or changing of dimension, and on and on.
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Steve Jepson
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? I read and re-read the post but I still don't understand what you are talking about. What is the difference between an Anchor Point and a Node? The nodes are visible when you select the object, and you can add a Hotspot to any object, any where you like. When you mirror a door or window, it can be form any place you want, center, end, or anyplace you click on it. And you can select the node of your choice to use as the origin before you place the object.

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Laszlo Nagy
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The Anchor Point is the point by which a GDL Object is placed.
For example, a Window or Door can be placed by its left, Right or Middle.
It would be great to see where these Anchor Points are.
This could be an On-Screen View Option so their display may be toggled ON and OFF.
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Steve Jepson
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I see. We do have feed back and control of the Anchor Points in the Info Box.
I don't think I have ever had any use for them.
Besides the center line, where exactly is the left and right Anchor Point on a Door or Window? Rough opening, frame, object limit, inside or outside,...? Nodes are always very specific.
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Laszlo Nagy
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The problem with those Anchor Point options in the Info Box is they display only the Anchor Point setting of the last selected element.
I think this wish is directed to an option using which the Anchor Point will be displayed for all elements.
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Steve Jepson
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For what? I am curious about how Anchor Points might be useful.

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Laszlo Nagy
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For example, I place Doors, and in certain cases I want them to be at a certain distance from the Wall corner or a connecting Wall.
Let's say I want it to be 100 mm from the wall corner.

Seeing the Anchor Point of the Door would come useful if the Door is resized to a different Width. If the Anchor Point is on the side of the Door closer to the Wall corner, than resizing the Door will resize it so the Anchor Point position of the Door stays at the same place, still 100 mm from the wall corner.
If Anchor Point is not at the correct position then after resizing the Door will no longer be 100 mm from the wall corner and needs to be moved.
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Steve Jepson
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laszlonagy wrote:
For example, I place Doors, and in certain cases I want them to be at a certain distance from the Wall corner or a connecting Wall.
Let's say I want it to be 100 mm from the wall corner.

Seeing the Anchor Point of the Door would come useful if the Door is resized to a different Width. If the Anchor Point is on the side of the Door closer to the Wall corner, than resizing the Door will resize it so the Anchor Point position of the Door stays at the same place, still 100 mm from the wall corner.
If Anchor Point is not at the correct position then after resizing the Door will no longer be 100 mm from the wall corner and needs to be moved.
Select Door, view/select Anchor Point in Info Box, then change size.
You never need to see the Anchor Point displayed because it's location is always indicated in the Info Box when you select the Door or Window you want to adjust.

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Laszlo Nagy
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Th Info Box displays the settings of only the last selected element within the selection.
It gives you no info about what Anchor Point setting (or any other setting) all other elements within the selection are set to.

So what you are saying is OK when a SINGLE element is selected, but not good enough when several elements are selected. A displayed Anchor Point hotspot would be so much more visual, and therefore, useful.
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Steve Jepson
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"this origin is extremely important and when editing these models and drawings we need to know where the object/element/door/window is placed."

That is why we use dimensions isn't it?
Just move your cursor over any node( or any place on the screen for that matter) and it will display the location from point any point of origin you want to set. Just turn on the Coordinates Palette.

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Steve Jepson
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laszlonagy wrote:
Th Info Box displays the settings of only the last selected element within the selection.
It gives you no info about what Anchor Point setting (or any other setting) all other elements within the selection are set to.

So what you are saying is OK when a SINGLE element is selected, but not good enough when several elements are selected. A displayed Anchor Point hotspot would be so much more visual, and therefore, useful.
This is not something you can only do with one selected door or window at a time. You can set the Anchor Point for as many Doors or Windows as you have selected in the Info Box. So you can change the size of all the doors on a Story or hallway, or what ever you select, and they will remain stationary per the Anchor Point you selected for all of them. And you would never have any reason to see the Anchor Points, before, during, or after the change. What would seeing the Anchor Point tell you that is useful in making changed to doors and windows? If it is an individual door or window the Anchor Point is displayed, and if your changing 100 of them, you set all the Anchor Points globally before you make that change. When in any of that would it be helpful to see the Anchor Point on the door or window?

To be clear, hot spots and nodes can be anchoring points, but they are not "Anchor Points" like only doors and windows have.

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Laszlo Nagy
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I see we will not be able to convince each other.
So all is left is to respect each other's opinions and preferences.
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Steve Jepson
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I am just trying to investigate some things that are said to be "extremely important".
This is very interesting to me because I can't imagine how it could even be useful. That means there must be something new for me to learn about.

I think what the person making the wish wants is for everything to have the same kind of Anchor Points that Doors and Window have, and that these should always be visible.

I can understand that. The reasons for it would be the same as for why Doors and Windows have this kind of Anchor Point.

That's a great idea. The optionally visible Anchor Point, when selected, would also activate the object and make visible the other nodes as well.
This is no doubt what was being described, I am just slower to catch on.

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