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Markers Renovation Status

Christinne_Martinez
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It would be great to be able to apply a renovation status to elevations, sections, details, etc.

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You can set the view to show a specific renovation filter.

 

But you mean the markers themselves?

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Yup! Cause the marker that references a "New" elevation appears in my "Demolition" floor plan. Layers can be used as a workaround, but it'd be great if that wasn't necessary because the model gets messy.

ryejuan
Expert

Yeah it would be nice for those who are heavily using Archicad for renovation projects. The model spaces tends to get messy once you have the old markers vs the new markers (elevations, sections, etc) but the workaround like you mentioned would be using layers for it. 😅 

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I trying to write some code but unfortunately what I do know does not get referenced specifically by the marker since it can't be selected as a specific filter I was able to do it with some of my other objects but unfortunately the markers are bound more in depth and I currently understand I do also wish that this was a constant as well as even renovation filters per each demolition or new construction but that's already been added to a wish list by other respectable users

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Appreciate your response. 😎 It's great you can do your own coding. I can imagine tons of customization. 😁

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if you ever need anything let me know, i either have something similar or if i have a few minutes i love to code new items.

 

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runxel
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What does it mean to demolish an elevation? 😂

Sorry but this just makes no sense.

I do wish to have folders in the project map.

For display? Just use layers.

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different people have different workflow maybe to others doesn't make sense. yes layers can be assigned to end up you'll have of things to manage like layer combinations, naming, etc. like for example adding folders in project map, why? You have the view map for that purpose. 😆

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Sure! Your workflow is as valid as mine is as valid as everyone else's.

That's not the point here.

Instead I'm talking about the broader sense of what makes literal sense. And to me this smells like a classic XY-problem here. The proposed solution adds nothing and only brings trouble. Last but not least it just makes no sense: What does it mean to "demolish" a section? Demolishing is an act of physical work. A view (section, elevation, etc) is not a physical thing. It doesn't exist. And even if it would, there is no time component to this (which the reno filter is ultimately all about).

 

Regarding folders in the project map: If you've ever handled a big project you easily end up with hundreds of items in the project map. The structure in the view map tells a whole other story and their folder structure will never relate to the one I'd imagine for the project map. And e.g. the issue of the OP could be handled – and much better, I have to say! – with a folder 😉

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Yes, everyone's work flow is valid.

 

I am in two minds about section/elevation markers having a renovation status.

If you demolish an entire wing of a building and you show the plan for 'New' work, you don't show what is being demolished.

So if you have a section/elevation of that demolished wing, wouldn't you also want to hide the markers? (I would just use layers).

 

But this would be a rare circumstance.

Most sections/elevations would contain a combination of new, existing and to be demolished elements.

So what renovation status would you give those?

 

I am happy with 2 layers, 'sections visible' and 'sections invisible'.

 

Barry.


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Hi runxel. It's not that I want to " demolish an elevation" or "demolish a section". I have an elevation that shows demolition and I want that marker to show up on my Demo Plan (but not my new Construction Plan), and vice versa. Layers are a work around. But I'd like to use renovation filters instead of a combination of renovation filters and layer combinations. 

No. This would be detrimental to the ability to have one Viewpoint as a source for multiple Views with different Renovation Filters.

 

I think that there is some merit to a wish for the ability to tie visibility control of Viewpoint markers to Renovation Filters. But I think it would have to be through the Show on Renovation Filter function and that it has to be enhanced to multiple filters.

Hi! The thing is I want two markers that reference two different drawings. Not necessarily two viewpoints. 

I'm not following - that has nothing to do with what to be the objective of the wish and having two markers referencing two different drawings is possible as is.

 

Although being a terrible approach to visibility control, layers are not a workaround - everything else is. If you wan't yet another workaround I think you would be better of wishing for something involving Show on Renovation Filter rather than Renovation Status.

 

Although adding Renovation Status to Viewpoint objects would sure be a good stir to the hodgepodge of visibility control GS seem determined to keep cooking. 

budatamas
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Hi! Thank you so much. I actually happened upon it while trying to find a solution. The conclusion of the thread is there's no way to assign a renovation status to markers, the feature was requested 10 years and 10 versions ago, and it still hasn't been integrated into Archicad. Makes me wonder if devs actually read the Wishes Forum, lol.

ryejuan
Expert

I just realized that there's no point having the ability to put renovation status on the view markers, cause you can control the views by saving it in a view map and the content that is being displayed in the view is driven by the renovation filter and the where the marker is placed will always be on that same location. 🤔

no wonder devs are not doing anything about it cause it doesn't make sense. 😅

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ryejuan
Expert

One question regarding this topic. For example you want to exclude the Grid Lines in the renovation filter instead of displaying the color want to display it as black. cause drawing that's being shown is "new construction"

see image below for reference. thanks in advance!

ryejuan_0-1645417751899.png

 

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ryejuan
Expert

hopefully they can add some toggles here if you don't want your grid lines to be overridden by the renovation filter.

ryejuan_0-1645686583197.png

 

 

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