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Anonymous
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I've not seen a more corrupt prone program than ArchiCAD, next to AutoCAD (but at least AutoCAD has repair/recover capability). Right now there are four of us (in an office of 8 ArchiCAD users) that are working with corrupt PLN/PLPs. It is very frustrating. Each of us is wasting at least two hours a day fist fighting ArchiCAD to get our work done.

So I am dreaming that Graphisoft can create a repair and/or recover command, similar to the AutoDesk one. Or better.

What do you think?
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David Larrew
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Alex,

We've been asking GS for a copy of their "mystery" utility that they use to repair the MANY corrupted files that we send to them to be repaired.

We've also had alot of trouble opening older .PLA files, having to send the files to GS to be extracted.
David Larrew, AIA, GDLA, GSRC

Architectural Technology Specialist

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WIN7-10/ OSX 10.15.7

AC 5.1-25 USA

Anonymous
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I admit I have only rarely had trouble with corrupted files* but when I have had a corrupt file, merging it into a new file has always fixed it. If you haven't already tried this I recommend giving it a shot. It doesn't take long if the project is still in the early phases. Of course merging doesn't bring in the sections or details (unless this has changed recently) so you have to be able to open the corrupt file to publish the modules.


*I begin to wonder if I am the luckiest ArchiCAD user on earth , but then I remember last winter and dealing with AC8.0 v1/r1

Anonymous
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Yeah, you guessed it Matthew. There's no problem copying the plan over to a new file. It's the sections, elevations, and details that make this a real pain in the neck. And I have quite a few of them.

Shoot David, if they already have a "mystery" utility designed to uncorrupt files then they shouldn't have any problem at all granting this wish. Hopefully you all will check "essential" and Graphisoft will get the message.

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i would prefer the file to not get corrupted in the first place . . . or am i missing something?

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Anonymous
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Alex,

Perhaps you already know this, but you can publish your sections and details as modules. You still have to merge them each individually but this helps to cut down on the effort required.

Anonymous
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Matthew wrote:
Perhaps you already know this, but you can publish your sections and details as modules.
Sure, sure. But copying/pasting is even easier.

Anonymous
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So I don't guess you've been successful with your request have you David?

That sure would be useful to have!

Granted AC & PM are very complex applications, but we're all still waiting for the level of quality that $4000 *should* get us.

Djordje
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Eric wrote:
So I don't guess you've been successful with your request have you David?

That sure would be useful to have!

Granted AC & PM are very complex applications, but we're all still waiting for the level of quality that $4000 *should* get us.
... or Euro 5000 ("slightly" more than US$ 4000 ...)
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

Anonymous
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Djordje wrote:
... or Euro 5000 ("slightly" more than US$ 4000 ...)
Actually, if we could buy the software in US, with the current €/$ rate, it would cost us about 3.333 € !

Djordje
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Geoffroy wrote:
Djordje wrote:
... or Euro 5000 ("slightly" more than US$ 4000 ...)
Actually, if we could buy the software in US, with the current €/$ rate, it would cost us about 3.333 € !
Seems it will be even less
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

David Larrew
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Eric wrote:
So I don't guess you've been successful with your request have you David?

That sure would be useful to have!
Eric,

Alas - emails were exchanged, forwarded, and replied to... but nothing yet.

I'm still hopeful... I'll keep you posted.
David Larrew, AIA, GDLA, GSRC

Architectural Technology Specialist

a r c h i S O L U T I O N S



WIN7-10/ OSX 10.15.7

AC 5.1-25 USA

Anonymous
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Here is a tip I learned from Tech Support the other day to recover a corrupt file. In fact, we have tried it on a Teamwork file that was giving us problems for more than a week (one team member crashed every time he would send & receive).

This method is called Forward Merging and simply merges a new & reset file into the "corrupt" file.

1. Create a New & Reset file in ArchiCAD
2. Delete all layers from this file and save it. We used the name crashmerge.pln
3. Open your "corrupt" file and select File->Merge and select the crashmerge.pln file to merge.
4. Save your file

That's it! This is much easier than merging all of your data into a new & reset file and it seems to work. One thing to note is that apparently (per tech support) you must save your Teamwork files out to solo PLNs before doing this procedure and then re-share it afterward.

I hope this helps you guys as much as it did us!


Cheers,

David Larrew
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There must be something new in AC 8.* because we were never very successful at retaining our "QuickViews"/"Publisher Sets" and superfluous elements drawn in the "Section/Elevation" windows when we used the "Merge" command in AC7.0.3.

Are you saying that, in AC8.1, the "Merge" command will bring everything over - it sound to good to be true! Thanks, Eric.
David Larrew, AIA, GDLA, GSRC

Architectural Technology Specialist

a r c h i S O L U T I O N S



WIN7-10/ OSX 10.15.7

AC 5.1-25 USA

Djordje
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Eric wrote:
Here is a tip I learned from Tech Support the other day to recover a corrupt file. In fact, we have tried it on a Teamwork file that was giving us problems for more than a week (one team member crashed every time he would send & receive).
Eric, please post this as a new topic so I can move it to Tips&Tricks.
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

Anonymous
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David,
Remember that this is doing the opposite...it's merging a N&R file INTO the corrupt file and therefore nothing gets transferred, really (and nothing needs to). It's not necessary to merge anything like quickviews, view sets, etc. because you're still in the working file. I don't know what happens internally but it's merging prefs and file attributes.

Anonymous
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Djordje,
I posted it as a new topic at http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=4893#4893

Eric

David Larrew
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Ah, I see! I read your post too quickly.

That's very interesting... I wonder why GS Tech Support didn't bother to offer us this very useful information?

Thanks again, Eric. I'll give you a "Kirksey" mug for the tip! Welcome back and congrats on your new addition!
David Larrew, AIA, GDLA, GSRC

Architectural Technology Specialist

a r c h i S O L U T I O N S



WIN7-10/ OSX 10.15.7

AC 5.1-25 USA

Djordje
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Eric wrote:
I posted it as a new topic at http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=4893#4893
Now it is at http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=973
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
HP Omen

Anonymous
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Careful David..you might start a whole new tip contest! I hope you've got enough mugs!

Thanks! I don't want to jinx anything, but the little guy's been sleeping 5-7 hours per night for the last week which is great for a 1 month old kid.

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