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Showing Zones in Section views

TomWaltz
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I would like to be able to display the Zone Name/Number of any rooms that are cut through by a section marker.
Tom Waltz
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Anonymous
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Yes! Yes! Yes!

Anonymous
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Excellent idea, though it may be a bit tricky to implement. It will (ideally) require the introduction of 2D elements into 3D views which carries a small host of issues with it. But then I would love to have automatic 2D elements in 3D. I guess I'll have to formulate a wish list post for that too (though it is properly a part of my larger wish item about multiple plan and 3D views.

Anonymous
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......though my repsonse is much later than the original post, I would underline the desire for zones appearing in the section cut!!!!!!

I was use to this in ADT. (though ArchiCad is still better)

andyro
Contributor
hi ML, but I thought zones were 3D, since you can trim to roof, etc....
Aha. You mean the label is 2D. Right, well why couldn't the label show in a section if that display option is set up?

I agree, it would be great to show arch. programming, and I wouldn't have to relabel section views, 'Unit 203', 'Unit 204' etc.

Zones find centroids when placed inside bounded walls, I'd like to see the same in 3D, and in poygonally/manually defined zones too, if they knew their 3D centre, then their label would center right?

I have just had to do 4 levels of slab edge and drainage plans, it would have been great to know the geometric centers for placing the drains....zones could do that eh?

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Andy Thomson
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Laura Yanoviak
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Matthew wrote:
Excellent idea, though it may be a bit tricky to implement. It will (ideally) require the introduction of 2D elements into 3D views which carries a small host of issues with it. But then I would love to have automatic 2D elements in 3D. I guess I'll have to formulate a wish list post for that too (though it is properly a part of my larger wish item about multiple plan and 3D views.
Matthew -- did a search for a wish list item specific to 2D elements in 3D, but did not find one, so I've added one here...

archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=59592#59592

in regards to structural gridlines in the Section/Elevation window. Automatic placement of both Zone Stamps and gridlines are integral to BIM.
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andyro
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TomWaltz wrote:
I would like to be able to display the Zone Name/Number of any rooms that are cut through by a section marker.
Of course! since this needs to get labelled often in sections anyways. I can (so can anyone) list dozens of timesavers like this. I am glad to see storey markers in AC10, but have yet to determine whether they work for us yet.

3D gridlines would be handy also, I know there is a hodge podge of solutions out there, but nothing comprehensive, or satisfactory from a printed graphics perspective.

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Andy Thomson
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Djordje
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andyro wrote:
3D gridlines would be handy also, I know there is a hodge podge of solutions out there, but nothing comprehensive, or satisfactory from a printed graphics perspective.
If you are referring to the structural grid, it is there in 10 ... plan, elevation, section, 3D. At last.

Domo arigato.
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Anonymous
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andyro wrote:
hi ML, but I thought zones were 3D, since you can trim to roof, etc....
Aha. You mean the label is 2D. Right, well why couldn't the label show in a section if that display option is set up?
I think I've come up with a better idea. At my present client's offices we are using library parts as room names that display the zone name and number. While sadly limited in ways that a few globals or a simple request function could fix, this is very handy for placing different tags for the same room in the floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan. If the zones were active in sections then they could work there as well.

What I like about this is that, rather than waiting for GS to spend precious resources developing some automatic system that will inevitably disappoint at least some users, this seems like something that could be easily implemented while providing total flexibility.

Laura Yanoviak
Booster
Matthew wrote:
I think I've come up with a better idea. At my present client's offices we are using library parts as room names that display the zone name and number. While sadly limited in ways that a few globals or a simple request function could fix, this is very handy for placing different tags for the same room in the floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan. If the zones were active in sections then they could work there as well.
So, Matthew, are you saying you place three different tags in each room (one each for floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan)?
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TomWaltz
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Laura wrote:
Matthew wrote:
I think I've come up with a better idea. At my present client's offices we are using library parts as room names that display the zone name and number. While sadly limited in ways that a few globals or a simple request function could fix, this is very handy for placing different tags for the same room in the floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan. If the zones were active in sections then they could work there as well.
So, Matthew, are you saying you place three different tags in each room (one each for floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan)?
I had written an object like that some time ago that you can place inside a zone and it could read the Zone it was in and show the name and number. (That was before SuperZone, which I liked a lot better than placing multiple objects).

I never did get a way to work in section or to move independently in Ceiling Plans.
Tom Waltz

Anonymous
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Laura wrote:
Matthew wrote:
I think I've come up with a better idea. At my present client's offices we are using library parts as room names that display the zone name and number. While sadly limited in ways that a few globals or a simple request function could fix, this is very handy for placing different tags for the same room in the floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan. If the zones were active in sections then they could work there as well.
So, Matthew, are you saying you place three different tags in each room (one each for floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan)?
Well, technically speaking, it's my clients that are doing this. This is primarily driven by their need to have different information in the different plans. But it also has the advantage of allowing each room tag to be placed according to the graphic needs of each drawing.

BTW, Tom what's this SuperZone?

TomWaltz
Newcomer
Matthew wrote:
BTW, Tom what's this SuperZone?
That's my Zone object that sells on ObjectsOnline. It is movable at different scales, allows for different text at each scale (like abbreviating rooms and such), and allows for several lines of text among other things.
Tom Waltz

Anonymous
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Sections should appear with room names automatically. This would would be controlled by the zone tool.

Anonymous
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Great idea! This would save a lot of time!

Laura Yanoviak
Booster
Yes -- a great idea -- and the wish can be found here:

archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=1321&highlight=
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owen
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ok .. hands up the 5 people who voted 'Average'. Do you even use the Zone tool?
cheers,

Owen Sharp

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__archiben
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Laura wrote:
Matthew wrote:
I think I've come up with a better idea. At my present client's offices we are using library parts as room names that display the zone name and number. While sadly limited in ways that a few globals or a simple request function could fix, this is very handy for placing different tags for the same room in the floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan. If the zones were active in sections then they could work there as well.
So, Matthew, are you saying you place three different tags in each room (one each for floor plan, enlarged plan, and ceiling plan)?
the tread's a bit old now, but this something i've just accomplished with the new floor plan option in archicad 11.
n  = request("Floor_Plan_Option", "", fpo)
combined with basic scale sensitivity i've got four 'states' of zone stamp - floor plan, ceiling plan, detailed floor plan, detailed ceiling plan . . .

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Anonymous
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the tread's a bit old now, but this something i've just accomplished with the new floor plan option in archicad 11.

Code:
n = request("Floor_Plan_Option", "", fpo)


combined with basic scale sensitivity i've got four 'states' of zone stamp - floor plan, ceiling plan, detailed floor plan, detailed ceiling plan . . .
ok, this is an old thread but AFAIK they still haven't implemented the ability for zones to show in section. Ben would you mind elaborating on how to implement the code you've outlined above? I'm clueless when it comes to GDL

vfrontiers
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It would seem this new GRID tool that shows in 3d, plan and section / elev could supply the technology needed for room names to appear in sections..

Actually, should be a slam dunk! (hypothetically speaking)..
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